R Gustason Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Any thoughts on programming a version of accordance for the Kindle Fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darin Allen Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hi Ryan. The Kindle Fire is an Android device, but we're not planning an Android version of Accordance in the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Gustason Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hi Ryan. The Kindle Fire is an Android device, but we're not planning an Android version of Accordance in the immediate future. Cool, well I hope you all keep it on the back burner. I'd rather pay 200 bucks for a kindle device instead of forking out 500 bucks for an ipad when the kindle fire does all I'd want (e-mail, book reading, web) with the exception of accordance. BTW, is there anyone on the accordance team which can program for android or does everyone only know cocoa / objective-c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darin Allen Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm not sure if we have anyone on the team who specializes in Android, but that's because we aren't pursuing it at the moment. However, it's more an issue of prioritizing time and resources than it is a lack of Android talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bennett Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 To throw my 2¢ in, I'd rather buy a used iPad 1 than a Fire. With the exception of the smaller footprint, IMO It's more versatile and the iOS is so much more stable from reports I've heard. With the iPad 3 rumored to come out in March that means there will be even more used iPad 1 & 2s on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 To throw my 2¢ in, I'd rather buy a used iPad 1 than a Fire. With the exception of the smaller footprint, IMO It's more versatile and the iOS is so much more stable from reports I've heard. With the iPad 3 rumored to come out in March that means there will be even more used iPad 1 & 2s on the market. Except that an iPad (1 or 2) will not fit in an inside jacket pocket and a Fire will. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bennett Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Except that an iPad (1 or 2) will not fit in an inside jacket pocket and a Fire will. ;-) I admit the footprint would be nice for certain scenarios, but I'd rather have iOS any day. And, your iPhone fits in your jacket pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I was mainly playing devil's advocate. I had access to a Fire for about three weeks. It is a nice device for what it is, but it probably shouldn't be directly compared to an iPad as it's really a different category all together. According to how one wants to use it, it could be of great advantage to some people. And for some uses, I think it would be better than an iPhone or iPod Touch. For instance, I never read books or even use Accordance, for that matter, on my iPhone. I just don't care for the small screen for those purposes. But the Fire is a good medium sized device that will fit in a jacket pocket and has a screen about the size of a paperback book. The Fire is not a device that I need or want, but I certainly see its advantages for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bennett Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I understood you; and read your Fire review. It would be interesting if Apple launched a smaller iPad. Based on price alone I don't see why someone would want a Fire over an iPad who is already invested in the Mac / iOS platform. In a few seconds of searching I found an iPad 1 for $350 locally. I'd rather save the extra money and have a nicer device. But, these things are highly subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Gustason Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 True. They are very subjective. I joined the Apple bandwagon in 2009 with an iPhone and I love it. I got my wife hooked on hers and now she can't live without her iPhone. In 2010 I bought my first Mac, a Macbook Pro and immediately started looking for apple bible software. I chose Accordance because it is a native app. I am not fond of ports, which is why I never used Accordance on a PC even though I did try the emulator. On a windows machine my favorite has to be e-Sword. I've never used an Android device, but I can't see buying a 500 dollar iPad when I would only use it for things which could be done for a lot cheaper by the Kindle. When I buy eBooks, it is almost always the Kindle version which I then read either on my iPhone or on my MacBook using the Kindle Reader App. I would use the device for reading, e-Mail, Web Surfing, Bible Study and Preaching From (by saving my sermon notes to pdf and then reading from the device. Other than having my Accordance Library available in a larger screen I personally have no need to buy a iPad. I don't play games on them, Don't listen to music on it (I have my iPhone for that). Don't watch movies or TV on the device (personal conviction). So really, I have no use for the iPad. Now, the fact that Accordance has developed an iPad version is the only compelling reason to buy one as I enjoy Accordance on my iPhone but would like the benefit of the larger screen. I would venture to say that your main competitor in the mobile device market is Olivetree which has made it's library available to Mac OSX Lion, iOS, B&N Nook, Kindle Fire, Android Tablet, PC, Smart Phone, iPad, Palm, Android Phone, etc ... I am a man of limited financial resources and have to chose wisely where I invest them. To me, it would make sense for the moment to purchase books and resources from Olivetree. Please don't attack me and tell me to just go away and go to Olivetree then... I like the power of Accordance, but I wonder why you don't expand your products into other markets. Is is the modus operandi of Oaktree to only develop in Apple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Mobile is going to continue to increase. There is already more Android than iOS usage for phones. It's not a significant issue yet for tablets, but I can only imagine that Android for tablets will grow in usage, especially with affordable devices like the Kindle Fire. It's difficult for developers because now there are four platforms to keep up with: Windows, OS X, iOS and Android. So many platforms in significant use reminds me of the eighties. I miss my TRS-80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darin Allen Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ryan, I certainly understand the appeal of having a full-featured program on every platform, and we are in no way diametrically opposed to this. In this sense, the modus operandi is not at all to "only develop in Apple," but rather to make sure that each product we develop is truly excellent. At the moment, there is a lot that we still want to do on the Mac, and certainly iOS, and we want to make these products truly amazing. So we are certainly not opposed to developing on Android in the future, but at the current moment we are focused on other projects. That being said, I would encourage you that 2012 and beyond will be a great time to be an Accordance user, as our developers are some of the hardest workers in the industry, and they have cool things planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Gustason Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ryan, I certainly understand the appeal of having a full-featured program on every platform, and we are in no way diametrically opposed to this. In this sense, the modus operandi is not at all to "only develop in Apple," but rather to make sure that each product we develop is truly excellent. At the moment, there is a lot that we still want to do on the Mac, and certainly iOS, and we want to make these products truly amazing. So we are certainly not opposed to developing on Android in the future, but at the current moment we are focused on other projects. That being said, I would encourage you that 2012 and beyond will be a great time to be an Accordance user, as our developers are some of the hardest workers in the industry, and they have cool things planned. Thanks Darin, I don't intend to "jump ship" from Accordance. I just started using the Mac and am still learning some of the finer points of the OS. I think Accordance is one of the most powerful tools available on any platform which is why I hope to encourage Oaktree to "spread its wings" for other platforms. I used to program back in the 90s so I understand how time consuming working on various parts and pieces of code can by. Going from OSX to iOS is a lot easier to port the code than for a completely different kernel and I understand that. I'd like to compliment the team on the fine job with the software. If all I wanted on a Mac was a basic bible reader with limited search capability I would have gone to Eloquent (previously known as MacSword) which is free and has a decent number of public domain texts available. Keep up the fine work, but again, please consider porting to other platforms later when you have the resources to do so. Blessings, Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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