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#1 Jonathan C. Borland

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 09:06 AM

Dear Fellow Accordance Users,

How can I search for clauses in the GNT that do not begin with conjunctions, either KAI or the postpositive DE (among the most common).

For example, I'm thinking of clauses like Matt 1:2:

Αβρααμ εγεννησεν τον Ισαακ.

I'm new to Accordance and excited about the clause module but don't even know how to do such a simple search as this! Somebody, please help!

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

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#2 Marco V. Fabbri

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:02 PM

If I understand correctly, you want to search for independent clauses.

If so, you will need to:
  • Open the Search text window, and select GNT-T
  • Open a Greek construct window
  • Drag Clause and drop it into the first column
  • When prompted, choose independent
I hope this does it.
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#3 Robert Holmstedt

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:34 PM

I've been trying to figure this out for a while. I gave up and sent the question to the top. ;-)

Try this:

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#4 Marco V. Fabbri

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:53 AM

Oops! I didn't read carefully. I somehow went on as if you wanted DE or KAI. You didn't. Thanks to Robert for coming to the rescue!
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#5 Jonathan C. Borland

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 11:44 AM

Thank you so much for showing me how to do this! I absolutely love the search capabilities of Accordance. Thanks to the creators for such a great program.

#6 Jonathan C. Borland

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:52 AM

Hello Accordancers!

I'm an Accordance novice just coming back to this after a long hiatus and am trying to replicate the search that Robert so kindly created for us above. For some reason, I keep getting this error message when I press the search button: "This construct window uses a PHRASE or CLAUSE. Therefore the linked Search window must use a Chapter or Book field. Therefore the linked Search window must use a Chapter or Book field."

I've done various things in a vain attempt to do what I think it wants me to do, but am at a loss. Any suggestions?

Sincerely,

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#7 JonathanHuber

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:16 AM

The search window (the window with your text, not the construct) is probably set to search in every verse. Change that drop-down to chapter instead.



#8 Robert Holmstedt

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:06 AM

Precisely right. Thanks for the quick response, Jonathan.

The reason for this is that the syntax of a clause may (often!) goes beyond verse boundaries. This is also sometimes true even the artificial chapter boundaries.

Therefore, we strongly suggest setting the search range to "BOOK" (not chapter).
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#9 Jonathan C. Borland

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

Dear Friends,

Thanks so much for the help! I wondered why this solution never occurred to me, and then I realized that (on my laptop) whenever I open a construct window the search range drop down menu disappears (due to lack of space on my laptop to displaying both windows in one workspace)! When I moved the divider to increase the size of the search/text window and decrease the size of the construct window, the drop down menu reappears.

Sincerely,

Jonathan C. Borland

Edited by Jonathan C. Borland, 14 April 2012 - 05:04 PM.





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