Copy as Reference Request

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

I would like an option/preference that would allow me to specify using the full book name when copying as Reference.

 

I often copy as reference to paste into a bulletin or other material I produce for my congregation or for other lay people, and most of them are not familiar with abbreviations for Biblical books. So I have to go back and "correct" the book names. AND I have to remember to do so!

 

 

[Helen Brown]

I think we just gave you that in 10.1.7. Your citation settings are used if you copy Bible text as Bibliography.

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

But in this case, I don't want the full text, just the reference. When I Copy as Citation, I get full book names. But I don't when I Copy as Reference. Or am I missing something?

Edited June 4, 2013 by Lorinda H. M. Hoover

[Helen Brown]

Copy as Bibliography. That now gives you only the references but in your citation format.

 

Oops, sorry, it's coming in 10.2!

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

I'm not given that option when I select verses. I think I've not been clear enough about what I'm doing/wanting to do:

 

I select a range of verses in a search or text window, of a set of verses from a Reference List [say Matthew 5:13-16]

I choose "Copy as References"

I paste the result into a word processing document

what is pasted is "Matt 5:13-16"

what I want to see is "Matthew 5:13-16"

 

Does that make more sense?

 

 

Oops: I missed your last line before I wrote the above. But I'm still not sure that copy as Bibliography gets me what I want, especially since it doesn't seem to work when selecting verses.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Lorinda H. M. Hoover

[Helen Brown]

10.2 will give you this option, trust me.

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

Thanks, Helen. Sorry to be dense; I've never had need of copy as Bibliography before, thus part of my confusion.

 

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

Just checking back in on this. Copy As Bibliography solves some problems, and creates others for me. Copy As Bibliography uses the Citation preferences to format the reference. Unfortunately, the citation format I want when I actually copy a citation is different than what I want when I'm just looking to copy the verse references.

 

Based on my standard citation preferences, what I get when I Copy as Bibliography is (John 19:1–7 NRSV) when what I want is John 19:1-7. I can change the preferences, but then they are wrong for when I Copy As Citation. I use both features on a regular basis, so it would be a hassle to keep changing back and forth.

 

So, I'd still like to see an option to use full verse references for Copy as Reference. Alternatively, letting us set up and easily access more than one citation format would probably work for what I want, too.

[Joel Brown]

Lorinda, digging around in the help, I found that you can hold the Shift key when copying references to include full book names. Even I didn't know about this feature!

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

Cool! That works perfectly! Thanks!

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

Shift-Command-R is not working in 10.4.2.

 

Lorinda

[Joel Brown]

I believe you mean Shift-Command-Option-R, and it seems likely that this hasn't been working for a while (but we'll fix it!). You can still hold shift when selecting Copy References from a Copy As menu.

[Lorinda H. M. Hoover]

Thanks for the correction, Joel. I was working too fast. Using shift with the contextual menu is inconsistent. It worked for me for a bIt, them didn't, now it is working again. Probably user error. I'll report back if I can reproduce. It in the contextual menu.