Elijah Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I'm not sure why the the text comparison in John 3:13 doesn't recognize the additional " ὁ ὢν ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ" in TR. Shouldn't there be a red marker in the NA text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Falling Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) The colors of the markings may vary depending on how you've set up your preferences. However, you are right that it is not displaying properly. I tried the same thing and got the expected highlighting. Maybe someone else can help you. The ουρανον that is marked in your screen shot in both texts is your highlighting, right? You might want to check your Compare Text preferences. Edited September 13, 2014 by Julie Falling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) It seems to depend on the selected text. With the NA28 the comparison seems to work, but would have expected a red marker in NA28 where the text is "missing". Edited September 13, 2014 by Elijah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yep it seems to depend upon the pair compared. But I cannot from that alone work out what I think is broken. GNT-T or GNT28-T -> GNT-TRS broken GNT-T or GNT28-T -> GNT-TR works GNT-T or GNT28-T -> GNT-TIS works GNT-T or GNT28-T -> GNT-WH works but there is nothing to show as there is no difference. Perhaps someone can use this info to progress the issue. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Falling Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Might there be some behind-the-scenes difference between the tagging of the GNT-TR and the GNT-TRS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I do/did suspect a tagging issue of some kind but I don't think that's all there is to it. GNT-TR is not tagged so I suspect in that case the comparison algorithm will have to do something else. But I don't quite see why tagging should enter into as you really want to compare and find the differences that the user actually sees rather than diffing tagging. So I'm really not sure - my official diagnosis is that it looks wrong and I don't understand. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Brown Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The TRS is tagged only with Strong's numbers, intended for the non-specialist. It probably cannot be usefully used in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 I tried the comparison of two random bible translations that don't have tagging at all. Even with those texts the highlighting works. So I don't quite understand why with some texts it works and with it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Falling Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I do/did suspect a tagging issue of some kind but I don't think that's all there is to it. GNT-TR is not tagged so I suspect in that case the comparison algorithm will have to do something else. But I don't quite see why tagging should enter into as you really want to compare and find the differences that the user actually sees rather than diffing tagging. So I'm really not sure - my official diagnosis is that it looks wrong and I don't understand. Thx D Hey, Daniel – The GNT-TR is fully tagged. It has all the parsing and even works as the base text for the interlinear. In this case, I guess the S GNT-TRS must indicate just Strong's. The GNT-TR gives no indication in its name that it is in fact, fully tagged. (The GNT-TRS works with the interlinear, too. Hmm. It may have some holes in it somewhere – i only checked a couple of verses.) Since the Gk in the GNT-TR & the GNT-TRS is identical (see the About This Text blurbs), it's not really an issue. We can just use the GNT-TR for Compare Text — we know from Elijah's shot that the GNT-TRS doesn't work there. By the way, when I organized my Library, I put the GNT-TRS and the GNT-NA in a folder at the bottom of my Greek texts so I wouldn't keep tripping over them or opening them by mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Oh ok - I had read more into the meaning of the S than I should have. Thanx for that. What's GNT-NA ? Is that an older Nestle-Aland ? thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) ok I didn't really check the difference between GNT-TRS and GNT-TR. With GNT-TR it seems to work. I found a bug however when switching between different Texts: 1. Select GNT-T on the left (Joh 3:13) 2. Select GNT-TR on the right 3. Enable comparison -> should work (red marker in GNT-T) 4. Change left side to GNT-TR (no changes found of course) 5. Change back to GNT-T -> Now different changes are displayed. (s. screenshot) Edited September 13, 2014 by Elijah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 This is a different thing. It's keying the comparison off the search text. In the top tab you have search text of GNT-TR and in the lower one GNT-T. That causes the single text comparison to take different texts as the base text in each case. thxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) hm ok, so the text I'm using as search target is used as base for the comparison and never has any comparison highlighting? I would prefer it if the red marker would display in GNT-T as this is the text I'm reading (like in my last screenshot when GNT-TR is the search text) - I might miss the marking in the GNT-TR. Somehow I thought I had seen highlighting on both sides when comparing two texts in the past. Has this always been that way? Update: In Accordance 8 it was how I remembered it (see screenshot from the training video). Both sides have highlighting. Update 2: I checked the settings. I had multiple texts enabled. After changing back to "Single text" both side have highlighting. Thats understandable because it would be difficult to integrate all the differences of multiple texts. Thanks for bearing with me ... Edited September 13, 2014 by Elijah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Falling Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Daniel – The GNT-NA is a NA27th sans tagging. When you hover all you get is an English transliteration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Daniel – The GNT-NA is a NA27th sans tagging. When you hover all you get is an English transliteration. Ah ok - thx D. hm ok, so the text I'm using as search target is used as base for the comparison and never has any comparison highlighting? I would prefer it if the red marker would display in GNT-T as this is the text I'm reading (like in my last screenshot when GNT-TR is the search text) - I might miss the marking in the GNT-TR. Somehow I thought I had seen highlighting on both sides when comparing two texts in the past. Has this always been that way? Update: In Accordance 8 it was how I remembered it (see screenshot from the training video). Both sides have highlighting. http://www.accordancebible.com/forums/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifaccordance 8.png Was there any reasoning behind the decision? Sorry Elijah I got this backward. What you are seeing is when Multitext compare is selected. In that case a single text is used as the reference to which a number of text may be compared. If you change to single text compare it will get you highlights in both panes. This is select from the pulldown menu next to the compare check box. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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