Darin Franklin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'm searching for doubled words in GNT-T, like "amen amen". I created a simple Greek Construct that does the job, but it is returning four verses that don't match at all. I don't get these in GNT-TR, just in GNT-T. My construct is just two INFLECT * words joined with AGREE Inflected and WITHIN 1. Mark 5:15 καὶ ἔρχονται πρὸς τὸν Ἰησοῦν καὶ θεωροῦσιν τὸν δαιμονιζόμενον καθήμενον ἱματισμένον καὶ σωφρονοῦντα, τὸν ἐσχηκότα τὸν λεγιῶνα, καὶ ἐφοβήθησαν.Luke 6:20 ¶ Καὶ αὐτὸς ἐπάρας τοὺς ὀφθαλμοὺς αὐτοῦ εἰς τοὺς μαθητὰς αὐτοῦ ἔλεγεν· Μακάριοι οἱ πτωχοί, ὅτι ὑμετέρα ἐστὶν ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ θεοῦ.Luke 12:32 Μὴ φοβοῦ, τὸ μικρὸν ποίμνιον, ὅτι εὐδόκησεν ὁ πατὴρ ὑμῶν δοῦναι ὑμῖν τὴν βασιλείαν.Luke 13:34 ¶ Ἰερουσαλὴμ Ἰερουσαλήμ, ἡ ἀποκτείνουσα τοὺς προφήτας καὶ λιθοβολοῦσα τοὺς ἀπεσταλμένους πρὸς αὐτήν, ποσάκις ἠθέλησα ἐπισυνάξαι τὰ τέκνα σου ὃν τρόπον ὄρνις τὴν ἑαυτῆς νοσσιὰν ὑπὸ τὰς πτέρυγας, καὶ οὐκ ἠθελήσατε. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) The words interestingly appear to be inflected in the same way. Try adding Lexical to the agree. That seems to get rid of it. I don't know why the GNT-TR doesn't have that behaviour but I suspect it's a difference in the tagging. Thx D Edited August 30, 2014 by Daniel Semler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darin Franklin Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Good idea. Adding Lexical removed them. I see the problem now. I did Parsing on the verses, and the highlighted words are actually doubled in the tagging list. They have alternative tags, like noun/adjective. So each word was matching itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) If that were the case I would think this was a bug. I believe that the double tagging is not the reason. I think the point is that the inflection is simply the same in both cases - eg. Luke 12:32 Μὴ φοβοῦ, τὸ μικρὸν ποίμνιον, ὅτι εὐδόκησεν ὁ πατὴρ ὑμῶν δοῦναι ὑμῖν τὴν βασιλείαν. But I think there are bugs here also. For example, in the above why is τὸ not also highlighted if my theory is correct. 20140830: This looks like an issue of some kind with multiply tagged words. If I change query to this : Then Luke 12:32 is very interesting. I would have expected to see τὸ μικρὸν ποίμνιον highlighted but I only see τὴν βασιλείαν. Notably, perhaps, is that in τὴν βασιλείαν both words have just one tag while in the former all three are tagged twice. They are tagged with compatible pairs of tags but they don't match in the results. And if I run your original query on Luke by adding [range luke] to the query I get one less hit in Luke than I get without the range restriction. And curious also is this : Luke 13:34 Ἰερουσαλὴμ Ἰερουσαλήμ, ἡ ἀποκτείνουσα τοὺς προφήτας καὶ λιθοβολοῦσα τοὺς ἀπεσταλμένους πρὸς αὐτήν, ποσάκις ἠθέλησα ἐπισυνάξαι τὰ τέκνα σου ὃν τρόπον ὄρνις τὴν ἑαυτῆς νοσσιὰν ὑπὸ τὰς πτέρυγας, καὶ οὐκ ἠθελήσατε. Why is Ἰερουσαλὴμ Ἰερουσαλήμ not highlighted ? 20140830: This happens because the accent on the final η is different in each case. These were done with your original search shown above but using the GNT28-T as opposed to GNT-T. And this oddity, switching scope to sentence and leaving range at luke includes one verse from Mark. There seem to be some very odd things going on here. Its late - I'll have to play with this more. Edited August 30, 2014 by Daniel Semler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) OK I've now officially spent more time on this than I probably should have. Here is a way to do this which I believe minimises both false positives and false negatives. Thx D Edited August 30, 2014 by Daniel Semler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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