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#1 Bob Deacon

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:02 PM

I hate raising on OLD topic but I am concerned about the development of arbitrary highlighting (pin head) in Accordance on the iPad. This post is NOT to be viewed as a complaint but rather as a concern.

 

While I realize that there may be relatively few that use highlighting to the extent I do I make extensive use of this valuable asset! Being a "visual" person highlighting helps me in my study, sermon prep and personal enrichment. While I fully understand that I can highlight a single word and highlight an entire verse, the ability to highlight specific phrases in absolutely invaluable! Often it is these phrase that I highlight (mainly underline on my MBP) that become either sermon/teaching main points or sub-points. As I read the text and mark I am able to go back and quickly and easily pick out those points for my sermon outline. I cannot emphasize enough how important and valuable this is for me and I suspect there may some others as well.

 

Currently I am caught between using a product that affords this ability yet DOES NOT have the speed and stability of Accordance. The ability to very quickly get to the Hebrew and Greek definitions is critically important to me as well and I can get this information with ONE SIMPLE CLICK!  (the main ones I am aware of that already have arbitrary highlighting is Olive Tree and Logos) Quite frankly I want to spend virtually all my time in study and preparation with Accordance rather than some other software. I need to ability to do this at home on my laptop but also "on the go" on my iPad mini.

 

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:36 PM

Well said! +1 for me. 


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

Hopefully this won't get lost in the shuffle. There must be many more out there that would love this feature to be made available on their trusty iPads?


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:51 PM

Hi Bob, thanks for the feedback. You are not the only one that would use this feature regularly (I'm included). There were some factors that affected our iOS development schedule this year that we did not expect, both internal, and external. We've hired two new people and the direction of the Working Group is now being steered by someone new. All that to say, this feature is something we know is crucial and will do our best to support it as soon as possible. It involves a significant amount of work, and affects the User Experience of several related features (highlighting, copying, Instant Details, etc.) that also need to be thought through and probably altered. 
 
We have a major update that is moving into beta testing, and are meeting to discuss our longer term goals this week. We really appreciate everyone's patience in this, and promise our dedication to advancing the iOS app is just as firm as ever, now with some additional team members who will help make that possible.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:09 PM

This may be over reach for me to ask this but as a "aleph" user is there any way to become a "beta" tester? As a chronic highlighter I did not know if I could be helpful. Just askin
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:10 PM

Ditto! (Or maybe today is just a good day to be +1ing Bob!)


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:02 PM

I'm with Bob on this. Highlighting is very important to me as we'll.
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:52 PM

I am looking forward to this feature. To be honest, this is a deal breaker for me. I have stopped using Accordance in my iPad because of the highlights. I got tired of being reading something that I want to highlight and cannot do it the way I want so I just switch to Logos.

 

Hope this get fix soon.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:45 PM

I am in the same exact position and I would much rather simply use Accordance exclusively. Hopefully something will be forthcoming.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 03:33 AM

I've tried finding other posts related to highlighting but can't seem to find what I'm looking for... so my apologies if I'm repeating someone else's post. Also, I think I'm also going to say what i feel... so my apologies before hand... I know you guys have a lot on your hands but I'd just really love to get these things off my chest! 

 

I too am pulling my haircut over highlighting on my iPad and iPod... I think the one member above who has stopped using accordance because of highlighting issues can understand?! 

 

1) First off why can't I simply drag my finger across the sentence or passage and highlight it like you can with Logos or Kindle? Having to select word or sentence is frankly awful... sorry. 

 

2) Even when I do go to select sentence though, it's not working? I just tried it right now and all it does is simply highlight a word. And before, with poetry, it wouldn't highlight the entire first part (stanza?)  but only the first line... so if there were six lines of poetry i have have go click on every single line, selecting the font and sentence... I just can't keep doing that. 

 

3). And lastly, the style of the highlighting itself is archaic... is there anyway to update it so that it actually looks like a real highlighter (like Logos and many PDF readers have)... I know this may sound like a trivial thing but for those of us that are very visual it's a big deal... just though I'd throw it in. I've attached a picture of what I mean, its from Preview, the PDF viewer/editor. 

Thanks so much though for all you guys do and again, my apologies for focusing on the negatives... 

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 05:27 AM

As the originator of this thread I feel compelled to add to the continuing debate (frustration?). As I understand it this will be part of the 1.8 update to the Accordance IOS. I am also very anxious for this however, rather than switch to another product (which I have done in the past), the SUPERIOR customer support and customer interaction that I personally have experienced from the Accordance staff compels me to stay put. I use my laptop for my highlighting needs and sync regularly. I simply cannot say enough for the likes of Helen, Joel and Keith who have been a tremendous help and so I have decided to remain loyal and simply wait it out! The speed and stability of Accordance far surpasses that of Logos and If I were to say anything to the folks at Accordance it would be "thank you" and "keep up the good work". 

 

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:30 AM

I couldn't have said it better, Bob.  (Except for the whole "originator of the thread" part).

 

While I wait anxiously for 1.8 (which I hope is the magic number for highlighting), excellent customer service and the new support of retina on the Mac make this a much more bearable wait than it could be.



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:39 AM

I've tried finding other posts related to highlighting but can't seem to find what I'm looking for... so my apologies if I'm repeating someone else's post. Also, I think I'm also going to say what i feel... so my apologies before hand... I know you guys have a lot on your hands but I'd just really love to get these things off my chest! 

 

I too am pulling my haircut over highlighting on my iPad and iPod... I think the one member above who has stopped using accordance because of highlighting issues can understand?! 

 

1) First off why can't I simply drag my finger across the sentence or passage and highlight it like you can with Logos or Kindle? Having to select word or sentence is frankly awful... sorry. 

 

2) Even when I do go to select sentence though, it's not working? I just tried it right now and all it does is simply highlight a word. And before, with poetry, it wouldn't highlight the entire first part (stanza?)  but only the first line... so if there were six lines of poetry i have have go click on every single line, selecting the font and sentence... I just can't keep doing that. 

 

3). And lastly, the style of the highlighting itself is archaic... is there anyway to update it so that it actually looks like a real highlighter (like Logos and many PDF readers have)... I know this may sound like a trivial thing but for those of us that are very visual it's a big deal... just though I'd throw it in. I've attached a picture of what I mean, its from Preview, the PDF viewer/editor. 

Thanks so much though for all you guys do and again, my apologies for focusing on the negatives... 

 

As Bob alluded to, arbitrary text selection is a major focus for the next rev of the Accordance app. This will certainly improve the overall user experience for highlighting, but will not address everything you mention. At this point we have not discussed a more active approach to applying highlights (such as the method in Kindle and others). Also, the aesthetics of highlighting will (for now) remain the same since this is ported from the desktop app.

 

We're actively working on this, and actually in alpha testing, but no official ETA at this point.

 

Thanks for your patience and support!


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:42 AM

How do I tell I am available to be a alpha or beta tester? 



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:46 AM

Alpha is usually internal only. Beta includes users.



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:43 AM

In the case of the iOS App we are limited by Apple as to how many devices can be registered for testing. We cannot just add people at will to either the alpha or the beta testing programs.


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Posted 01 May 2014 - 06:55 AM

+ 1 for highlighting in ios.  






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