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#1 davidmedina

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 08:57 PM

I was watching Dr. J podcast #19 on Simple Construct. I followed his examples but there is one that it did not work for me.

 

Using the ESVS as search Bible he constructed the search in the image I included. He gets 443 hits and i get 6,774 hits. Plus, as I understood it, the result is suppose to show only words whose key number is the same but not translated the same. I don't get that. Dr. J results start at Gen 2:26 while mine start at Gen. 1:3

 

What am I missing? 

 

First image is mine and the second is a screen capture from Dr J construct.

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 09:23 PM

I wonder if Flex search being on is the difference?

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

Let me try that.


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 09:34 PM

Scott, I tried that but it did not make a difference. I got the same result.  To correct what I stated earlier there were 12,761 hits regardless if I did a flex or exact.

 

By the way, what is the purpose of "Enter construct description" on the top bar of the Simple Construct pane? The help files says "Used to enter a description of the construct for future reference." But I cannot find a way to save it.


Edited by davidmedina, 03 December 2013 - 09:35 PM.

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:07 PM

This was actually a change in version 9 to the construct, and we haven't been able to update all of the old videos yet!  Prior to version 9, adjacent items in the construct were assumed to be consecutive elements, right next to each other.  Since version 9, adjacent items in the construct can be any distance away from them, and if you want to specify adjacent, you need to add the WITHIN element and specify WITHIN 1 words.  This should account for the notable difference in hits.


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#6 Lorinda H. M. Hoover

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:09 PM

There has been a change in the construct rules since the podcast. Words in neighboring columns no longer have to be immediately adjacent to one another in the text. What happens if you add a within 1 word constraint in the construct?

You can save the description if you save the workspace in which the construct appears. It will be saved only in that construct tab or zone.
And Joel beat me to it!

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:23 PM

But you also answered about the description!


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:41 PM

Ok. the within worked. Now, can you explain a bit more what I did by adding the within? I am not sure how it played in what Dr. J explained in the podcast as to what he was trying to accomplish:  show only words whose key number is the same but not translated in the ESVS the same. What did the within did for me in this case?

 

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:43 PM

This could be a great subject for a webinar :) Because I can see how powerful it can be but I am a bit lost. 


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:50 PM

Hi David,

 

   Its one of several connecting commands available in searches. This link explains them : http://accordancefil...ng_commands.htm.

 

  In this case your construct says find the two words within 1 word of each other, basically adjacent.

 

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