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#1 Elijah

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:03 AM

What is the best way to find all verbs in the GNT that end in μι, but exclude ειμι, because it is pretty irregular.

I tried two searches. The first one includes the search for the root of all the μι words i found:

 

    +διδωμι <OR> +ιστημι <OR> +τιθημι <OR> +φημι <OR> +δεικνυμι <OR> +ἵημι <OR> +ὄλλυμι <OR> +ῥήγνυμι @[verb] <NOT> ειμι

 

Result: 1880 hits

 

 

The other search uses the wildcard *

 

    +*μι@[verb] <NOT> ειμι

 

Result: 1528 hits

 

The hit count is quite different.

I'm still learning greek so I'm not sure if some of the words are not really μι words in the first search or if second search is not correct.

 

(Accordance 10.3.3.1 on Windows 8.1 x64)


Edited by Elijah, 31 December 2013 - 04:28 AM.


#2 Helen Brown

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:13 AM

Both your strings are incorrect. The <NOT> ειμι command eliminates hits which occur in the same verse as ειμι, rather than eliminating ειμι from the wildcard search.

So this string:

    +διδωμι <OR> +ιστημι <OR> +τιθημι <OR> +φημι <OR> +δεικνυμι <OR> +ἵημι <OR> +ὄλλυμι <OR> +ῥήγνυμι @[verb] <NOT> ειμι

tells Accordance to find all these words except for +ῥήγνυμι when it is not in the same verse as ειμι.

had you used parentheses correctly as in

    (+διδωμι <OR> +ιστημι <OR> +τιθημι <OR> +φημι <OR> +δεικνυμι <OR> +ἵημι <OR> +ὄλλυμι <OR> +ῥήγνυμι) <NOT> ειμι

or

    (+διδωμι, +ιστημι, +τιθημι, +φημι, +δεικνυμι, +ἵημι, +ὄλλυμι, +ῥήγνυμι) @[verb] <NOT> ειμι

you would have eliminated all occurrences of these words where ειμι occurs in the same verse. (You cannot use the <OR> inside parentheses attached to @.)

 

So you must eliminate the ειμι with a minus sign connected to the @ expression thus:

   (+διδωμι, +ιστημι, +τιθημι, +φημι, +δεικνυμι, +ἵημι, +ὄλλυμι, +ῥήγνυμι)@[verb]@-ειμι

 

However, your last method is much simpler, but again should not use <NOT> ειμι but rather the minus symbol:

  +*μι-ειμι@[verb]

or

  +*μι@[verb]@-ειμι

 

Now each of these searches yields slightly different results, but I can compare them in a third tab using the Contents command thus:

     [CONTENTS GNT28-T 2] <NOT> [CONTENTS GNT28-T] <AND> *+μι-ειμι

which yields a set of verses with the mi verbs highlighted for you to analyze and explore.

 

Sorry, I cannot go into why the results are different, but they probably result from the way that Accordance applies the search terms to the text in a slightly different order in each case.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:26 AM

You are picking up all the μι verbs in the second search. In the first only those you have asked for. Doing an analysis on the results of the differences between the two tabs will provide a list of the verbs you missed.

 

And thanks Helen for that expert guide about searching in Accordance.


Edited by Steve King, 31 December 2013 - 06:39 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 06:35 AM

@Helen: Thanks a lot.   +*μι@[verb]@-ειμι  is indeed what I was look for. 

Now the hit count is higher with the * search. I looked at the different results and saw that there were more μι words that I simply didn't list in the first search.

 

Update: I added + to -ειμι to also exclude words like παρειμι:   +*μι@[verb]@-+ειμι


Edited by Elijah, 31 December 2013 - 06:41 AM.





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