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#1 Jared1260

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 09:53 AM

I have a very technical comparison I am hoping to carry out for my dissertation research, and I was hoping someone could walk me through the steps (or first, let me know if it is possible!).

 

I know about the INFER command, but want to create percentages of agreement along three lines of comparison for each pericope where Matthew and Mark overlap and don't know how. 

 

 

So again, for each pericope I want to calculate: 

 

#total words

# of identical words with identical form and identical order

# of identical words with identical forms and different order 

# of identical words with different forms and different order 

 

Solages and Synoptic Abstract both provide this information, but I was hoping to check it with Accordance as well. 



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Posted 26 June 2014 - 10:56 AM

Jared,

I've done lots of INFER searches to explore synoptic data. I even put a search syntax into a footnote of my dissertation. The way you've framed your questions, the INFER command will not be helpful.

1. For total words, of course, define a range and then search for *    you will be best served by creating ranges for each of Matt and Mark.

For the others, remember that the INFER command includes 'how many in a row' you're looking for... 4, 5, 6, etc.  So, really, the question you can answer there is "How many times are there 5 identical words in a row?"  "How many times are there 7 words in a row, with only 2 non-matching words?".

Do make sure you've read the help doc on INFER, and I'm sure the Accordance blog did a piece on it as well.


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Posted 26 June 2014 - 11:51 AM

Joe is correct for how to get the total number of words, so you should be set.

 

You should use the INFER command to get your other results.  You just need to configure it properly in the dialog (shown when you add the command):

 

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If you want identical order, you need to check the 'Use advanced settings' dialog and set 'Source words ignored' and 'Destination words added' both to zero - you want exact matches.

 

If you want any order, leave those two options at zero, as it seems like you don't want any extra words, but also check the box 'Ignore word order'.

 

To determine identical form or not, just toggle your choice of Lemmas or Words.  Doing Words will give you identical form, doing Lemmas will give you identical or non identical form.

 

Its a bit more tricky to get only different forms.  You want to basically exclude your inflected hits from your lemma hits.  I'm not sure if there's a better way to do this, but what I came up with was using the CONTENTS command.  Run both searches, inflected and lemma, and then do a CONTENTS command to find the hit verses for lemma that didn't match inflected - a.k.a. the different form results.  The only downside of this is you may miss a hit in a verse where one phrase is identical and another isn't.

 

Here's a workspace showing this setup.  GNT28-T 4 has your final results set for different forms.

 

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Of course, to calculate all of your variations, there are more searches to be run, but this should get you started!

 

Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts - or if anyone thinks of a better way to get the different forms only.


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#4 Jared1260

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:22 PM

Thanks for the advice! I will digest these suggestions and go from there. 

 

I am hoping there is a way to set up these sophisticated searches and then run them through for each pericope without needing to reenter them.


Edited by Jared1260, 26 June 2014 - 02:24 PM.


#5 Joel Brown

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 03:01 PM

Jared, with the INFER commands all you'll need to do is change the two ranges listed, Matthew and Mark.  The rest of the linking and logic is all on a tab level, so you should be ok.  By the way, don't forget to save this workspace so you can access it again easily!


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