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#1 Michael Dearinger

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:24 PM

I would like to submit a suggestion to add another abbreviation for Philemon. Other online resources, books and software programs allow for "phm" as an abbreviation. Right now we have to type in at least "phile" to get Philemon. I have seen "php" for Philippians and "phm" for Philemon. I know it's not a significant thing but please give it some consideration.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:37 PM

I would like to submit a suggestion to add another abbreviation for Philemon. Other online resources, books and software programs allow for "phm" as an abbreviation. Right now we have to type in at least "phile" to get Philemon. I have seen "php" for Philippians and "phm" for Philemon. I know it's not a significant thing but please give it some consideration.

I would second the observation that Phm is not uncommon. Should be easy to add it to the list in a revision at some point.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 10:20 PM

Phlm is accepted now for Philemon, and Phil for Philippians. We can look into adding more, but I find Php very cryptic.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 10:30 PM

"Phlm" is accepted, but "Phm" is not accepted in Accordance. There is a standard system where every book has a three-letter abbreviation. In that system, you find Php and Phm for their respective books. They are weird, yes, but cryptic, no. Given either abbreviation, anyone can figure out which book they must be referring to (hence not cryptic).
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 10:43 PM

While we're revising, can we add "Qoh" for Qohelet/Ecclesiastes?

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 06:40 AM

"Phlm" is accepted, but "Phm" is not accepted in Accordance. There is a standard system where every book has a three-letter abbreviation.

Where is that "standard system" documented? We may as well make sure we get them all if and when we update the current list.
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 10:16 AM

Helen, I am realizing that I may have called the list "standard" simply because I have been using it for a decade now in my own file structure, but in some looking I can not find where this list might have been published, or if some of it is my creation. The system simply takes the first three letters which uniquely identifies all books except for two pairs. As such, Accordance already will recognize all of these.
The two pairs with ambiguity are of course Judges/Jude and Philippians/Philemon. Each uses sufficient distinctive letters (in some ways impossible since every letter of JUDE is in JUDgEs). The results are
Jgs
Jde
Php
Phm

Here's the full list in case the reference is useful to someone. It is great for use in file names.
Gen
Exo
Lev
Num
Deu
Jos
Jgs
Rut
1Sa
1Ki
1Ch
Ezr
Neh
Est
Job
Psa
Pro
Ecc
Son
Isa
Jer
Lam
Eze
Dan
Hos
Joe
Amo
Oba
Jon
Mic
Nah
Hab
Zep
Hag
Zec
Mal

Mat
Mar
Luk
Joh
Act
Rom
1Co
Gal
Eph
Php
Col
1Th
1Ti
Tit
Phm
Heb
Jam
1Pe
1Jo
Jde
Rev

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 12:46 PM

The following web site has what they call "The 3-letter Bible Abbreviation System"
http://www.biyn.org/...es/abbrevs.html

And the ESV Bible web site has a section that gives actual statistical data for Bible queries. The following is a quote from their web site. I will put a link to that site following the quote:

"Bible Book Query Patterns
The table below shows the distribution pattern of inputs and abbreviations for all the books of the Bible, based on approximately 500,000 queries. In developing a Bible site, you should probably support any queries that account for over 1% of the queries for a given book"

http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/about/

Look toward the bottom of this site for the data. As you can see "phm" accounts for 26.1% of all Philemon queries.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 02:04 PM

The 3-character abbreviation system I've used predates that web site, but it follows the same philosophy, though devates more than it needs to (Cf. SOS for Song of Solomon).
That list of commonly used reference in online lookup is very interesting. Should provide Helen with a few more abbreviations to add.
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 10:29 PM

I too am used to Phm and Php, and I'd also put in a vote for user-configurable abbreviations, as is available in other bible software.

Edited by countach, 21 October 2007 - 10:30 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2009 - 02:21 PM

I'm bumping this up since it seems like it has gotten ignored in recent updates.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:56 AM

Like many of the previous posters I too would like to argue for the three letter abbreviations. When writing manuscripts I am often expected to use the three letter abbreviation. The ones listed by Joe Weaks seem to be the standard. I have also used these abbreviations in Online Bible for some time and have found myself growling when they do not work in Accordance. Thanks for the consideration. With Accordance I know the publishers are listening!
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 10:52 PM

+1 on the the three letter abbreviations
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