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#1 Rod Decker

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 01:57 PM

How does one find instances in GNT-T of repeated words? E.g., I'm interested in other passages that have a pattern similar to Mark 6:39, συμπόσια συμπόσια. I seem to remember this can be done, but have no clue how. I didn't find anything on the forums or the online help that sounded relevant.
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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:09 PM

And while I'm asking, how about the variation for a search string for this pattern: wordA και wordA (as in 2 Cor 4:16, ἡμέρᾳ καὶ ἡμέρᾳ)? Thanks.
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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:21 PM

Maybe I'll figure this out yet! :) I've attached a construct that does most of what I want, but it would require repeating multiple times to find all the various parts of speech. There's probably a more efficient way to do this.

And why in the world is my search highlighting Matt. 11:26 ὁ πατήρ?! All the rest are valid, but this ref. has an article and a noun highlighted.
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The construct specifies a noun in two adjacent cols, connected by <within 1> and <agree inflected>.
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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:26 PM

And while I'm asking, how about the variation for a search string for this pattern: wordA και wordA (as in 2 Cor 4:16, ἡμέρᾳ καὶ ἡμέρᾳ)? Thanks.


Rod,

Use a Greek Construct window. Place an INFLECT element on the first and third columns (don't select any form, simply click OK and then write an asterisk) and a LEX (with the KAI) in the middle. Then drag an AGREE element between the first and third columns and check the Inflected form checkbox. That should give you what you are looking for.

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Edited by Ruben Gomez, 31 January 2009 - 02:30 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:32 PM

Rod,

Use a Greek Construct window. Place an INFLECT element on the first and third columns (don't select any form, simply click OK and then write an asterisk) and a LEX (with the KAI) in the middle. Then drag an AGREE element between the first and third columns and check the Inflected form checkbox. That should give you what you are looking for.

Best,


Unless I'm doing something wrong, that is only matching the parsing, not the same word. E.g., I get hits like:

Matt. 4:24, συνεχομένους [καὶ] δαιμονιζομένους

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Whops! I figured this on out: have to mark *both* "lexical" AND "inflected" to make it work, and it now does. Thanks.

Now I'll see if I can figure out a variation for the original search query....

Edited by Rod Decker, 31 January 2009 - 02:35 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:36 PM

Unless I'm doing something wrong, that is only matching the parsing, not the same word. E.g., I get hits like:

Matt. 4:24, συνεχομένους [καὶ] δαιμονιζομένους

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Sorry, my bad. Use Lexical form instead of Inflected form.

Okay, I see you figured it out. As for the original request (repeated words in GNT-T), you can even use the same Construct and delete the KAI column. If you don't want the two words to be contiguous, use a WITHIN element. The Construct window is very flexible and extremely powerful; you just have to tweak it according to what you want to find, but it's all there ;)

Edited by Ruben Gomez, 31 January 2009 - 02:44 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2009 - 05:38 AM

...sorry...mistype...

Edited by YingLam, 04 February 2009 - 05:39 AM.





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