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Searching Suffixes, "I the Lord am your(sg.pl.) God"


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#1 miqraot

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Posted 25 September 2005 - 09:27 AM

I want to search the expression, "I the Lord am your God."
In the expression, I wanted to divide suffixes (sg. and pl.)

It means that I wanted to divide "I the Lord am Your (sg.) God," אני יהוה אלהיך
and, "I the Lord am Your (pl.) God," אני יהוה אלהיכם

At first, I tried to do like this in order to search, אני יהוה אלהיכם

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But, It didn't work! :(
Maybe I didn't understand @ yet.
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Posted 25 September 2005 - 01:14 PM

Remember that the prefix and suffix are treated as separate words. Your search will work fine if you remove the @. The @ says the suffix must be the same word as elohim, but it is actually the next word.
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Posted 25 September 2005 - 04:24 PM

Remember that the prefix and suffix are treated as separate words.


Yes, It works as below

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Now, I want to find only אני יהוה without אלהיכם.

So, I tried to as below:

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It seems to me good. But, I realized that it has serious problem.
Because, the formula will exclude not only the verses that has אני יהוה אלהיכם but also אני יהוה..........אלהים.

Therefore, I made like this:

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Is it correct? Is it possible to use two or three "<command>" options?
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Posted 25 September 2005 - 05:44 PM

Yes, you can use many commands together. Chapter 8 of the User's Guide covers the search commands in detail, and page 8:8 discusses multiple commands.

In this case you can simply link the two phrases with the commands:
[SUFFIX second masculine plural] אלהים <FOLLOWED BY><NOT><WITHIN 2 Words> אני יהוה

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:04 AM

In this case you can simply link the two phrases with the commands:
[SUFFIX second masculine plural] אלהים <FOLLOWED BY><NOT><WITHIN 2 Words> אני יהוה

Why <WITHIN 2 Words>? Wouldn't <WITHIN 1 Words> fit the logic of this particular search? (not that it matters materially in this case--you get the same results with 2, 3, etc., since this particular formula doesn't appear to interpose anything between the divine name and the element in apposition, when it appears) p. 8-1 seems to indicate you would use 1 when you want to make sure they're (not) adjacent.

Edited by jpkang, 26 September 2005 - 12:05 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 04:18 AM

In this case you can simply link the two phrases with the commands:
[SUFFIX second masculine plural] אלהים <FOLLOWED BY><NOT><WITHIN 2 Words> אני יהוה


Yes, as jpkang says, the command, <within 1 words>, is what I want to find. "ONLY אני יהוה" without אלהיכם or אלהיך.
Bucause, <WITHIN 2 Words> cannot search Is.41:17

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