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#1 Andy Crim

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 02:55 AM

The portrait mode needs to be restrained to 90 degrees either direction or else how can you lay your head on a pillow and go to landscape viewing? Do it like safari and so many other apps. Thank you.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 12:03 PM

The portrait mode needs to be restrained to 90 degrees either direction or else how can you lay your head on a pillow and go to landscape viewing? Do it like safari and so many other apps. Thank you.



Hi, Andy!

I am a bit confused. Our app can currently be locked in portrait mode, just like many other apps on the iPhone and using the same method. Just dbl-click the home button, swipe the bottom app bar to the far left and tap on the orientation lock.

Or do you mean we ought to allow users to lock it on landscape mode...?

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#3 Andy Crim

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:55 PM

I usually lock it in the portrait mode, but I needed to view a chart in landscape mode and discovered that unlike Safari, Accordance will continue to rotate to 180 degrees and beyond. Try it.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 02:00 PM

Hi Andy,

Can you describe the steps you're taking to see this behavior, because I cannot reproduce it on my iPhone 4 or iPad. It the hardware rotation lock is set, then no amount of device rotation rotates the screen contents.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 02:57 PM

When the screen is unlocked rotation should stop at 90 degrees. It should not go to 180 degrees.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:31 PM

Apple surely has interface guidelines concerning this as all of their apps that allow rotation behave the same. They are free to rotate either 90 degrees right or left, but not 180 degrees -- Notes, Safari, Address Book, Mail. Bible Reader and most other apps operate the same.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:40 PM

Apple surely has interface guidelines concerning this as all of their apps that allow rotation behave the same. They are free to rotate either 90 degrees right or left, but not 180 degrees -- Notes, Safari, Address Book, Mail. Bible Reader and most other apps operate the same.


Accordance is in good company, at least.
Amazon's Kindle app and the Stanza reader (as does Logos' app) go all the way around. I can keep turning and turning and turning.
It looks to me like it's the choice of the app (and its programmers).
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 03:49 PM

So how does one view landscape on the iPhone when in the prone position? The iPad will lock on landscape. What is the advantage of the 180 degree position? I believe Apple got it right.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:13 PM

I have no idea. I've not used my iPhone lying down. :)
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:16 PM

I'm guessing Steve Jobs does.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:18 PM

Deuteronomy 6:7
7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 04:24 PM

I don't have the time that Steve does -- and I never said I don't teach lying down. :)
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 05:14 PM

I wasn't referring to Steve's time, although I believe he is as busy as you, but to his attention to detail. I have seen many apps come on the market with the same quirk, but almost all of them eventually gain this capability.
I realize there are many more important interface tasks at hand, but I was simply pointing out this weakness with the hope it will be put on your long to do list. In the meantime there is Bible Reader for in bed study.

Sorry to belabor my point.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 06:12 PM

Andy,

Apple encourages app developers to support ALL orientations in their iPad applications: portrait, landscape, upside down portrait, and upside down landscape (yes that's what they call them). So unless the orientation lock is set we allow the device to be rotated in any orientation.

Interesting to note that the orientation lock works differently for iPhone and iPad. iPad allows you to "lock" your orientation in portrait or landscape. iPhone only allows you to lock your orientation in portrait.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 08:49 PM

Accordance is in good company, at least.
Amazon's Kindle app and the Stanza reader (as does Logos' app) go all the way around. I can keep turning and turning and turning.
It looks to me like it's the choice of the app (and its programmers).


Turn your Kindle app to landscape and then touch the lock in the lower right corner of the screen. Voila!
Curl up with a commentary as long as you don't lay on your side and try to read it in landscape.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:14 PM

Turn your Kindle app to landscape and then touch the lock in the lower right corner of the screen. Voila!
Curl up with a commentary as long as you don't lay on your side and try to read it in landscape.


Is this on an iPad or an iPhone/iPod Touch?

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:23 PM

Kindle version 1.1 added the rotation lock for the iPhone. I don't know about the iPad, but of course we can lock in landscape with the built in lock. Bible Reader started out with the universal rotation, but I believe version 3 added the lock just like Kindle. Version 5 has adopted the Apple style of landscape lock that we have described above.

As far as Logos . . . I wouldn't particularly be proud of following their lead.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:25 PM

Andy,

OK. I now see what you are saying. The Kindle app has it's own rotation lock button completely separate from the one built-in to iOS. And you're suggesting we add one to Accordance for iOS, correct?

Scott.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:26 PM

Thanks for listening, Scott.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 11:06 PM

One other thing. The Apple implementation is quick and effective without having to think about it. The app can be read in landscape laying on either side. The Kindle way is also good. It is a lock that is easy to get at.

Please don't bury a lock in the settings like Mantis and Paul Avery. This is way too cumbersome for curling with your commentary.




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