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#21 Fr. Rich

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 12:41 PM

How about the final volume on Job? It has been out in print for about a year.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 12:56 PM

Any of the volumes in print, but not yet in our collection, are the ones we are working on getting.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:45 PM

Word Biblical Commentary, vol. 37a: Acts 1–14 by Stephen Walton Thomas Nelson 2011



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:51 PM

Word Biblical Commentary, vol. 37a: Acts 1–14 by Stephen Walton Thomas Nelson 2011

 

Yes, I saw that in a couple places as well, but it is not on Thomas Nelson's site, nor anywhere else to actually purchase.

 

Rest assured, we are in direct communication with the publisher and will continue to work on getting the additional volumes as they are made available to us.

 

I hope this clarifies the situation.

 

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:33 PM

I did get the info from another softwares website, since they were offering it for sale I assumed it was out. I see it is under what they call pre pub, but i had guessed since it was labeled as published in 2011 it was out.

 

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:16 AM

Where would I report seeming errors in the WBC text? 

 

For example in Gen 15:15, the text reads: "The prophecy “You will be buffed in ripe old age” is fulfilled in Gen 25:8."

 

I'm fairly sure "buffed" isn't supposed to be in there. 



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:41 AM

I don't have a print WBC to compare it to, but there's a "Report a Correction" feature which is at the bottom of the pop-up menu when you right-click a tool like WBC in Accordance. That's just on a computer, though--there's no such feature for iOS yet, so for that I've just taken a screenshot and emailed it later to corrections@accordancebible.com.


UPDATE--I just checked the Bible. Looks like "buried" is intended here. Being "buffed" instead of "buried" in old age does seem to change it from a blessing to a curse!


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:47 PM

Gordon J. Wenham did Genesis both in Word Bib. Com. and in New Bib. Com.  

H.C.G Williamson did Ezra and Nehemiah likewise in both.

Has anyone compared the same-author commentaries in different sets?  It would be interesting if they changed mind on interpretations between commentaries.

 

I found this out about Wenham and H.C.G.Williamson as I began the laborious process of listing the commentaries I have in my Accordance program by Book -- something I surely wish Accordance had done for me (both in the sales dept and in the Library of my Accordance program).  I have found no easy way to know which author-common-taters I have on a given book, as for example on Genesis.  I have to dig up the bulb-roots for myself before I may have my fish and chips.  So I am plugging away at the contents of each set.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 10:43 PM

Enoch,

 

though it was a long time ago. Wenham was required reading in my degree (Word), other students recommended reading the NBC if we did not have time to wade through the Word volume as was seen as a condensed version of the same by many



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 01:32 PM

Enoch,

 

though it was a long time ago. Wenham was required reading in my degree (Word), other students recommended reading the NBC if we did not have time to wade through the Word volume as was seen as a condensed version of the same by many

Thanks for the info Phil.  I have found that there are a number of duplicate authors in different sets, commenting on the same book.  

 

You remind me of when I took Church History and Latourette was the text.  As I recall:  Though I studied enough, I did not do well on the first exam over some really basic questions.  I had been snowed by the abundance of data in Lat. and failed to isolate the forest from the trees.  After that test, I went to a book store and bought 3 items:  1) a plasticized 1 sheet summary of Church History, 2) a really short summary text of Church History, and 3) another summary text a little thicker.  For all future tests, I made sure I new what was in the summaries, and I ended up with an A in the course.

 

 I am not sure that the same would work for Wenham, but perhaps so.  Some commentaries may indeed contain some vacuous blather.



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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:46 PM

Enoch,

 

I should add that each commentary by the same author may be tailored to a different readership.  Examples off the top of my head are:

 

Bock:  Baker Exgetical Commentary is for a different audience than his NIV App Volume

Moo: NICNT is different to his NIV App

Moo: Piliar is difffernt to his Tyndale Commentary

France: NICNT is different to his Tyndale

France: NIGNT different from his smaller one (can't rember the series)

Micheals: NICNT (have not used this) different from his NBC one

Thiselton: NIGNT different from his English edition of the same commentary

Cranfield: ICC Romans different from his English edition of the same commentary


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:55 PM

Thanks for the discussion, guys--I find these comparisons/summaries helpful.

 

Just to note--France's Tyndale volume on Matthew is close to his NICNT volume. NICNT is, of course, more detailed (especially in the footnotes), but when I didn't have time to read both before preaching on passage, I'd just do Tyndale and get most of his major points that he also made in NICNT.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:58 PM

Phil is right. France says (in the NICNT intro):

 

This is not a revision or expansion of that commentary, but a new work. I have made it my practice to write the first draft of the present commentary on each pericope before looking again at what I wrote twenty years ago (and indeed before looking at any other commentaries as well). I hope thus to ensure that priority is given to what I now understand to be the significant issues.

 

However, on at least an anecdotal level, I recall some significant overlap in places.


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 12:31 PM

Enoch,

 

I should add that each commentary by the same author may be tailored to a different readership.  Examples off the top of my head are:

 

Bock:  Baker Exgetical Commentary is for a different audience than his NIV App Volume

Moo: NICNT is different to his NIV App

Moo: Piliar is difffernt to his Tyndale Commentary

France: NICNT is different to his Tyndale

France: NIGNT different from his smaller one (can't rember the series)

Micheals: NICNT (have not used this) different from his NBC one

Thiselton: NIGNT different from his English edition of the same commentary

Cranfield: ICC Romans different from his English edition of the same commentary

Thanks for that list, Phil.  Now, for $64,000, pray tell us the audiences for each -- please!  I am guess that in some cases one might think one commentary was for pietists and the other for scholars???

 

So from what you are saying, the general rule is that the commentaries are not carbon copies.


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 05:00 PM

Enoch,

The audience for each set of commentaries is described in preface of each volume.

For Example Thiselton's Volume on 1 Corinthians answers, in the words of one reviewer, "...everything about the text."

Grading commentaries is difficut guys, because the goal at the end of the day is to edify your congregation by what you have learnt from the text. As you have worked out, I am a bit of a commentary nerd. So I tend to look firstly at the scholarly stuff, the Word series, the International Greek and the NICNT or NICOT series. (Says a lot about my training Moore Theological College Sydney, and my evagelical convictions) But as Abraham said, if you don't have time before preaching look at the shorter volumes. Rememember our goal as teachers of the word is to encourage and edify. To do this we need a good grasp of the text but not necessarily to know everything about a minor greek/hebrew construction (well only if it serves to make the text clearer).

No Commentaries are not carbon copies. Execpt for Moo on Romans, well nearly. Moo on Romans NICNT was Originally released as Romans 1-8 in the Wycliff Exegetical series in my time at College. The Series was originally published by Moody, with only a couple of volumes, Phil, Rom, Rev, Numbers, and a couple of miinor prophet Volumes. one by Finney and another by Merill I think, from memory. The Series was axed, and the NICNT Comittee, asked Moo to finish the commentary 11-16. This was Published then as one volume. Some of the text of the original volume was redone, some not. I Know this as I used the Moody Volume at College, and then bought and used the NICNT later.

A Good back up is the New Bible Commentary, several of the authors have produced volumes in the Word Series or other series that are top rate. I think of Wenham (Genesis), and Clines on Job among others. If I don't have time to read Wenham in the word series will def. read the NBC entry as it tells me what this top Scholar thinks are the chief central points of the passage.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:46 PM

Would you mind posting which volumes you would classify as "moderate" and/or "liberal"? As a moderate/liberal, I'd be interested in knowing. Thanks!

I think that's probably not going to serve you that well - Goldingay on Daniel is reviewed on Amazon for example as liberal, but if an evangelical were to neglect his volume they would be missing out on some brilliant scholarship. Similarly, some may disagree with Dunn on Romans but to neglect his volume is to miss out on much.


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 09:24 PM

Goldingay is pretty conservative in most peoples mind. Do;t get me wrong I think he is a wonderful scholar but he is not liberal.

 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:45 AM

I second that, think Goldingay is a good scholar.  It's really hard trying to classify these authors as liberal or moderate,  What helped me is looking at many reviews and finally reading the volumes.  As Dr J., has mentioned in another post, "you tend to learn the most from those who you disagree with".  Having said that, the Word series is a good series, the quality of the volumes vary.  The one series I do come back to time and again is NICOT/NICNT, this seems to be my standard set.  The Word series and others follow close behind.  I try and read widely and then form a view based on the text of scripture not an individual author. 
 


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