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#1 rborden

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:58 PM

This may have been asked in the past but I have not found it posted.

I am using the GNT-TRS and use the copy paste to put the original text into a word processor. My question is this - How can I quickly and simply transfer (export) the original Greek into English words without having to translate and type the English words myself. I want to keep the original order of words, otherwise I would just quote a present day translation.

Here is an example: 1 John 4:8b GNT-TRS "Theos agapeś estin" Now I have to manually lookup; triple click each word, look it up in the dictionary, after all of that type the English word in my document.

Currently I set the Preferences in the Greek export to English or transliteration and it gives me English words (that make no sense unless you read Greek) that I then have to manaully translate to their English words that I understand. I would like to cut this painful step out and not have to manually translate the Greek English words into meaningful English words.

I use a Greek (book form) lexicon and it has the original Greek language with the English words right under them. I am looking for something like this.

Can anyone help me out, perhaps recommend a study supplement?

Thanks in advance!
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:12 PM

Well, firstly, the English has been translated, in the KJV and NKJV for example. I assume that you do not just want to copy one of these translations, you want the gloss for each word. Then I think your best option is to select the text and click the Parsing button. Setting the Parsing display to show the Dictionary Form but not the Key number or transliteration gives you this:

Matt. 5:1
Ἰδὼν ὁράω to see
δὲ δέ but, and, now
τοὺς ὁ, ἡ, τό the, who, which
ὄχλους ὄχλος crowd; army; people
ἀνέβη ἀναβαίνω to go up, rise up, advance
εἰς εἰς one
τὸ ὁ, ἡ, τό the, who, which
ὄρος ὄρος mountain, high hill

There is no other way to get Accordance to translate the text. It just is not clever enough.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 03:49 AM

Thanks for the help Helen, however, I must be missing something in a check box somewhere. When I set the Parsing display, per your directions, I get the original Greek words in bold and next to them Greek words not in bold- It seems to be using a greek Dictionary and not the English Dictionary form of the word(s). It appears that my default dictionary is greek and not Enblish.

I have tried everything I can think of, the funny thing is I'm sure it's a simple fix!
Thanks,
Richard

PS It seems that I am missing the Greek words in the Gloss folder. Where might I find these? My gloss folder is empty. I am a standard level user and I purchased the GNT-TRS. Hope this helps.

Edited by rborden, 11 March 2006 - 04:37 AM.


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Posted 11 March 2006 - 07:05 AM

You are correct, I forgot that the glosses only appear if you have the file called "Greek words." However, when we prepared the Library 6 master I do not think that the feature was even there for the new Greek text tagged with Strongs, and I know the CD-ROM does not include the file.

If you email me I will be glad to email you the file in return.
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