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#1 Jonathan C. Borland

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 08:06 AM

Dear Accordance,

Is there any way to place Rom 14:24-26 (= Rom 16:25-27 in NA27) in its proper place in the GNT-BYZ module, or would this mess up the parallel-text programming? Actually, I'm not even sure where to look in Accordance to find out that the verses Rom 14:24-26 are not even where they stand in the printed edition. Can somebody help?

Rom 14:24-26 represents a rather significant block of text that has been translocated to the end of the book, and some Byzantine-priority advocates point to this as an example of the preservation of the pre-canonical form of Romans in most manuscripts, while the UBS/NA27 placement represents the polished editorial position it received for a later "canonical edition." By the way, I believe Jakob van Bruggen is preparing an article on this very issue due to be published in a collection in 2012.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 09:44 AM

If your search text is set to the GNT-T and you navigate to Rom 16.25-27 and have the GNT-BYZ in parallel it will correctly display Rom 14.24-26. And vice versa, if GNT-BYZ is the search text and you go to 14.24-26, 16.25-27 will display in parallel in the GNT-T. See here:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:36 AM

Dear Rick,

Ah, so that's how to do it. Thank you! I'm a brand new Accordance user and just figuring out how to do things on it.

I did notice, however, that Rom 14:24-26 comes up just fine (i.e., after Rom 14:23) in the iOS for the GNT-BYZ module. I like that better, and wonder why the desktop version can't do it that way.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:40 AM

Hmm, I'm trying to replicate it not coming up but can't seem to do so now. Sorry for the confusion. I think I was confused or had the wrong module open.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:47 AM

Dear Rick,

Oh, I see what I must have done. I started playing around with the GNT-T module which doesn't have Rom 14:24-26 in that place. Later, I added the GNT-BYZ text pane and was playing around. I eventually closed the GNT-T text pane, which left me with only the GNT-BYZ text pane open. But when playing around with GNT-BYZ, Rom 14:24-26 remained absent, I guess because it was still somehow synced to GNT-T, even though GNT-T has already been closed. Does this sound right?

Sincerely,

Jonathan

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:35 AM

The Search text pop-up menu in the top left corner is what determines the verse order in the text panes below, even if none of them are displaying that version.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:24 AM

Dear Rick,

Oh, I see what I must have done. I started playing around with the GNT-T module which doesn't have Rom 14:24-26 in that place. Later, I added the GNT-BYZ text pane and was playing around. I eventually closed the GNT-T text pane, which left me with only the GNT-BYZ text pane open. But when playing around with GNT-BYZ, Rom 14:24-26 remained absent, I guess because it was still somehow synced to GNT-T, even though GNT-T has already been closed. Does this sound right?

Sincerely,

Jonathan


Sorry, I'm now a bit confused myself. If you haven't figured it out, post a screen shot of your current workspace and I can annotate it with an explanation of how the texts are displayed, sync, etc.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 05:15 PM

Thanks Rick and Helen,

By the way, as a new user of Accordance, it was not intuitive to me that a text could be open but not be using the verse numbering for that text! But now I understand why. Thanks again.

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Jonathan




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