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#1 Kevin Soars

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:42 PM

I do hope this is the right place for my question; please forgive me if it is not and feel free to 'move' it if that is possible!

In the latest Accordance Quicktip- Instant Details how would I find in which version of the Bible is "endurance" used in Hebrews 12:1?

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:52 PM

I'd run a Search All, with your group set to All Texts, and the search string set to:
endurance <AND> [RANGE Hebrews 12:1]

Edit: In my search, I get hits in a variety of translations, including HCSB, ESV, NAS85, NLT, NKJV, and others.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

Hi Kevin (and Joel)
Joel, you just beat me to it. My one additional step, which may help in some other cases where you don't have a scripture reference, would be to add a user group of your selected English Bibles and run the search all in that.

It means that if you are looking for "that pesky verse in some version or other that has "patience" and "endurance" in it, you won't get hits from LXX or Pseudepigrapha or Philo.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:00 PM

Thank you Joel (I certainly would not have figured that out!) and within 10 minutes of the question! Extraordinary!

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:04 PM

And thank you Ken for the extra information. And only a few minutes behind Joel; maybe that is because the US is closer to Austria than Australia!!!!

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:05 PM

Actually, Joel, I have just realised that I don't understand the process! I am obviously doing something wrong and would be grateful of further help. I am going to try to include here a picture of what I have:

webkit-fake-url://BD3F4321-F9F5-4B0F-A7FA-CED0388CDC13/image.tiff

(Well the picture seems to have worked!) Does it help you to help me?

Edited by Kevin Soars, 16 October 2012 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:09 PM

Sorry, my trying to add a picture of my search window does not seem to have worked after all. It is now 11:08 pm here. I shall try again tomorrow.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:19 PM

I took a picture of my search window with Grab but when I tried to copy it into a reply I ended up with "webkit-fake-url://BD3F4321-F9F5-4B0F-A7FA-CED0388CDC13/image.tiff" as above! As I said, I shall try agin tomorrow!
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:41 PM

You can't paste screenshots into the reply, you need to save the screenshot to your computer, then attach it to the post specifically. Sorry the copy/paste doesn't work directly, but thats just a limitation of the forums.
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

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From the "File" menu (top, first option to the right of "Accordance"); hover over "New" (first option); a pop-up of options appears. The last one is "Search All." Click it and the Search all window will open (in my case a new zone). Then paste Joel's search string. I found 12 English Bibles with endurance in Heb 12:1.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

Hi Kevin and Michael,

You can also use the search all entry box in the top right hand corner of the workspace, and select the group from the drop down in that entry box.

it then opens a new search all zone and does the search for you.

However, now I have lost the ability to upload a picture to the post so I cant show you my screenshot! The buttons just aren't there (Joel - anything changed?)

Yes - Australia is closer to Austria - didn't you know there's only a (sic) l difference! I was behind because Joel is a computer head and is awake till crazy hours with Pizza and Coke. ;)

Update: I do have the attach file button on the other fora just not this one.. The more reply options button isn't here, and the "Use Full Editor" button still doesn't give me the attach files area. This forum may have file attachments disabled...

Edited by Ken Simpson, 16 October 2012 - 07:56 PM.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:04 PM

I've split off this topic for clarity, and to allow post attachments!
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:58 PM

Now that Joel has kindly split off the topic...
here is my screencap

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:04 AM

Thank you Joel, Ken and Michael, now I have it!

Here I hope is a picture of my search window; I do hope it opens! You will see why I did not get any results - I did not know why until I received your help.


file://localhost/Users/kevinsoars/Desktop/Endurance!.tiff

No, I still do not have (or do not know how to send) a 'picture' like the one that Ken has included. I wish I could show you and then you will see where I was going wrong.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:14 AM

Kevin - You may find that the easiest way to get a screen shot is shift-cmd-3 to get the whole screen, or shift-cmd-4 to define just the portion that you want to capture. The shots show up on your desktop where they're easy to find for attaching and easily discarded afterward.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:31 AM

Thank you, Julie. I have taken a screen shot and placed it in my desktop as mentioned by Joel. But how do I get it from my desktop into this post?

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:05 AM

Just wanted to let you all know that this discussion inspired today's post to the Accordance blog.

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#18 Kevin Soars

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 02:14 PM

Well David I am delighted to know that, not only has my lack of expertise here has not only brought forth the usual kindness and patience of other members, but I have actually inspired your blog today! You have inspired me to keep asking!

Thanks to all,

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:25 PM

Hi Kevin,
a quick tutorial on uploading screenshots.

Julie has given you the initial instructions...thanks Julie.

Then, click the "More Reply Options" at the bottom of your "reply to this topic" box

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this will bring up some extra options - at the bottom of this box you will see an "Attach files" button.

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Click this and navigate to your image(s) and press select and they will upload. At this stage they are attachments and we can see them but they won't be part of the text.

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Then place your cursor where you want the image to go (important step) and press the "add to post" text that it red-boxed in that image.

This will put a string in your post that is a link to the image you just uploaded.

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Then click "Add reply" (at the very bottom) and voilá (I know - wrong country) your post should have some pics!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:04 AM

Ken,

I am so grateful for this 'quick' tutorial. (I cannot imagine how long it must have taken!) So, here goes; if I can follow your instructions I am hoping to show why I could not get the answer to my original question.

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Now, in fear and trepidation (!), but with a little prayer I am going to add reply and see what happens.
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