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#1 Daniel Semler

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

Hi ya,

I am wondering if the GNT-T syntax module is compatible with the UBS4 Tagged module. I am only prompted to ask as I own the UBS4 (and not the GNT-T, though I have the GNT-TR) and see that there is an upgrade path from the GNT-T to the UBS4. So I wonder if the syntax tagging is compatible.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:54 PM

It will display in parallel with the UBS-4, but it is designed to work in conjunction with GNT-T. The base text for GNT-T is NA27, but it lacks the critical sigla and introduction. UBS4-T will not display the syntax tagging in the Instant Details. Thus, it's recommended that you get GNT-T for compatibility.

#3 Daniel Semler

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:11 PM

Thanx James. I don't quite follow what you mean when you say "It will display in parallel with the UBS-4". This might prove serviceable but I don't know. Certainly instant details support would be nice but perhaps not mandatory. I am still trying to learn enough about what the syntax support would really give me. I am reading various notes on it now.

As UBS4-T, GNT-T and NA27 are the same text (as far as I know) (with variations in paragraphing and inclusions (apparatus and such)) I had hoped that the tagging might have been done in a way compatible with the base text. But I know nothing about how its done in detail, so I don't if such an approach would be viable.

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#4 James Tucker

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

Thanx James. I don't quite follow what you mean when you say "It will display in parallel with the UBS-4". This might prove serviceable but I don't know. Certainly instant details support would be nice but perhaps not mandatory. I am still trying to learn enough about what the syntax support would really give me. I am reading various notes on it now.

As UBS4-T, GNT-T and NA27 are the same text (as far as I know) (with variations in paragraphing and inclusions (apparatus and such)) I had hoped that the tagging might have been done in a way compatible with the base text. But I know nothing about how its done in detail, so I don't if such an approach would be viable.

Thx
D


Syntax functionality brings a level of tagging to the database that enables your research to pose questions of a syntactical nature, that morphological search alone is insufficient to return a data set for analysis. For example, I can think of phenomena where a Subject of a greek clause is not a nominative case. How would you find these since you cannot search for a Noun in the Nominative? Well, the syntax would enable you to find subjects of a clause whose case (morphology) would be accusative or genitive (Syntax).

As for UBS4-T, and GNT-T, and NA27-T, I used to believe the same thing regarding variation. However, after I created the NA27-T and UBS4-T the variations are greater than I had initially believed. The major difference are not, always, inflected forms. The greatest difference between the two are the modern critical vestiges of interpretation (i.e., what is considered OT quotations, poetry, etc.). There is enough difference in my jot and tittle research to led me to conclude that there is enough difference between these two (and now NA28) that I will never rely on one—but I am a text critic so that's my nature.

If you are going to invest in the Syntax modules, I would highly recommend that you get GNT-T to accompany it.

Edited by James Tucker, 22 December 2012 - 11:23 PM.


#5 Daniel Semler

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:41 PM

Ah ! Many thanx for this. Very helpful. I'll mull it over. My understanding of NT Greek syntax, if I could be said to possess any, is very limited. But its the next thing in my Greek studies in the new year. It might be time to invest in something like these.

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#6 James Tucker

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:52 PM

As your facility in Greek increases, you will find that your reading will be enhanced by syntax searching. Having these databases readily accessible, not only for searches whose complexity varies from finding subjects, complements, to particular clause types, but also to consult as you read the text, will prove beneficial in many ways.

Enjoy! And any time you have any questions, the forums are fairly active and responses are normally given within a days time.

Edited by James Tucker, 22 December 2012 - 11:53 PM.





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