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#1 Martin Shields

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

Hello,

 

I'm trying to search for a phrase such as "τῇ διδαχῇ αὐτοῦ" in Matt 7:28 using a graphically constructed search, but I'm obviously doing something wrong.

 

Here's the syntax:

 

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If I do a search for a "Complement Phrase" it is included in the results. If, however, I then add the article under the first section of the complement phrase, it is no longer included:

 

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I can probably achieve this without resorting to a syntax search, but I'd like to work this out.

 

Thanks!



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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

HI Martin,

I've had a look at this and it doesn't behave the way I thought it should (and obviously as you thought it should).

 

Just posting to bump it and see if anyone can suggest a solution...


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#3 Robert Holmstedt

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

I looked at it, but the phrase structure differs from how we've tagged articles in the Hebrew texts. I don't have access to the raw tagging files for the Greek, so I can't even try to figure it out for you. It will have to bumped to Marco.


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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:17 PM

Hi ya,

 

  I've played with this a bit now as I recently got the syntax module for the GNT-T and have been wanting to try it out a bit. Had to read a bunch of stuff and still do not really know what I'm doing. But below are three queries. One very broad that will find Matt 7:28 based on your initial post. Then one that I thought should have worked based on the syntax diagram but it did not. Then finally after many variations one that does find Matt 7:28 and similar constructions.

 

If anyone can explain what I did I'd be really interested to understand it. To me the search I constructed does not appear to reflect the syntax diagram so I am not sure how these the search and diagram relate to one another. And along the way I found many as yet curious results. I am yet to go through Marco's posts on various syntax searches but there does not appear to be one aimed at precisely this sort of search, at least at a quick glance.

 

For comparison purposes I got 15 hits in 8 verses - Matt, Mark and Jn and the Jn could be excluded by including only dative articles I would think. BTW I also don't fully understand the hit count here. Need to look at that a bit.

 

Anyhow enjoy - time for me to do vocab drills.

 

Thx

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:09 AM

We've taken a look at this, and it definitely seems to be a somewhat serious bug in Accordance, that we should fix for 10.1.3.  Sorry about the hassle!  In principle, the construct should work just fine.


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#6 Daniel Semler

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 03:02 AM

Hi Joel,

 

  Thanx for checking it out. I tried one of Marco's examples as well this evening. I have opened another topic on it : Searching for particles example not working.

  Perhaps they are related issues.

 

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:30 PM

Thanks everyone. At least it isn't just me!






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