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#1 luoar

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:12 AM

I have been trying out a number of syntax searches for the first time. Most recently I tried to do a search of a syntagm in Psalm 73:20 כַּחֲלוֹם מֵהָקִיץ אֲדֹנָי בָּעִיר צַלְמָם תִּבְזֶה׃. I wondered how often the verb בזה is followed by a complement in the HB. Please see the image for my question.


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#2 Robert Holmstedt

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:00 PM

Luoar,

 

Hold the searching thought -- the syntax searching in the current version of Accordance is a bit wonky (though I'm testing a beta that is searching extremely well).

 

When you do get to the search again, here's how it should be (and if you either switch the linear order or click the "search both directions" option at the bottom, next to the "search" button, your Psalm 73:20 example is one of the hits).

 

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#3 luoar

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 03:14 AM

Thank you Robert.



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:07 AM

Certainly.

 

And it may help for me to make something clear here, especially for others.

 

The idea behind the hierarchical levels is that the Predicate Phrase contains a Predicate and then lower level Phrases (i.e., Complements and Adjuncts). So you cannot simply throw a Complement (the item, not the Phrase) directly into a Predicate Phrase. You must use the Complement Phrase first, and then if you want to specify the Complement (e.g., as a noun, or as a specific lexical item), then you put the Complement item into the Complement Phrase. 

 

It is only as the top level of the clause that there are items at "equal" levels: Subject - Predicate - Casus Pendens (Dislocation) - Vocative. 

 

The Getting Started with Syntax file on the documentation page is helpful, as is the conference paper I wrote to explain the basic structure of our tagging.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:28 AM

Got it!  :D I look forward to reading the file. 






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