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#1 Robb Brunansky

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:33 PM

Maybe I'm overthinking this one, but I'm having trouble constructing a search for a certain predicate/complement structure within a clause in the GNT-T using the syntax search capabilities.

 

I am looking at John 1:12 and the phrase "received Him" (elabon auton). I want to run a search on John's Gospel where I can see all the clauses that contain the verbs lambanō or dechomai as the predicate and generate a list of the complements to those verbs.

 

I tried this, but I get an error that my complement cannot be used underneath a clause. It has to be under a subject or predicate phrase.

 

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OK, so I tried this:

 

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And I received this error:

 

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OK, so I tried this:

 

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That's a little better. At least Jn 1:12 is included in the search results with the correct terms highlighted. But what about Jn 3:11? It should be included since I have search both directions checked, but it's not. I tried switching everything around and running the search again, so that the construct looked like this:

 

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John 3:11 still is nowhere to be found. When you look at the diagram of Jn 3:11, it seems like it should be included:

 

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There is a clause. The clause contains an overarching predicate phrase. The first element in the predicate phrase is the complement phrase with a valid complement (martyrian). Next is a predicate with lambanō as the predicate verb. Why is this not showing up in any of my search results? Thank you.


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#2 JonathanHuber

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:37 PM

I'm not sure what's wrong, but I can say that you don't actually need to include specify the clause. If you build the search from the predicate phrase down, it still works (though John 3:11 is still not showing up.)

 

More to the point, if you delete the complement, just leaving the complement phrase, then John 3:11 is found but other verses are not. It also looks like the results are different when the complement word has an article, which suggests an issue with the search algorithm rather than a tagging issue. But I could be wrong.

 

Finally, there's some funny business with compound complements such as Matt 14:19 and 15:36, in which the καὶ is the search hit. Other times the entire compound complement is included, such as Matt 17:25.



#3 Daniel Semler

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:50 PM

Hi Robb,

 

  Jonathan and I were clearly heading in similar directions. Try the attached. It does not find Matt 14:19 or 15:36 but gets both John passages.

  The syntax structures of the John passages are a little different at least as far and the predicate and complement go which is what led me to delete the complement leaving just the complement phrase. 1:12 is a simple complement and 3:11 is a complement phrase and the pred. has an adjunct. I tried modelling the adjunct and got nowhere really helpful.

 

Thx

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