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#1 Guntis

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:54 AM

Lost Books of the Bible: The Great Rejected Texts by  Joseph B. Lumpkin. 

ISBN13: 9781933580661. © 2009 Joseph B. Lumpkin.  Contact Fifth Estate Publishers, Post Office Box 116, Blountsville, AL 35031.

 

This book contains: 

 

 

The First Book of Adam and Eve
The Second Book of Adam and Eve
The Book of Enoch
Introduction to The Second Book of Enoch:
The Book of Jubilees
Jasher
The Story of  Ahikar
 
APOCALYPTIC WRITINGS AND THE END OF DAYS
The Apocalypse of Abraham
Apocalypse of Thomas
4 EZRA / 2 ESDRAS
2 Baruch - History
Conclusion
The War Scrolls - The War Between the Sons of Dark and the Sons of Light
The War Scroll
 
LOST SCRIPTURES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
Introduction to Gnosticism
History of the Gospel of Philip
History of The Gospel Of Mary Magdalene
History of The Apocryphon of John
The Apocryphon of John
History of The Gospel of Thomas
The Gospel Of Thomas
The Question of Judas
* The Gospel of Judas
The 29th Chapter of Acts
 
I think these could be good materials for the Bible students. I already found several interesting references. 

“Teach the way of God in Accordance” (Matt 12:14, NIV-Accordance edition)
“Those who live in Accordance (with the Spirit) have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.” (Rom 8:5, NIV-Accordance edition)

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

Ah, so Acts 29 is not just a ubiquitous ministry name?



(no offense intended to anyone on the forums who is part of any Acts 29 ministry)


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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

While I agree that English translations of some of these books would be welcome additions to Accordance, these translations are quite dated and have been superceded by modern scholarship.  I would suggest the standard editions of Old Testament pseudepigrapha and New Testament apocrypha: Charlesworth's The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha and Schneemelcher's New Testament Apocrypha.  Each work is a two-volume set that includes most of the ancient writings usually included in these categories, along with copious introductions and notes.  


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:56 AM

I delayed writing a response to the original posting after I checked the website of the publisher. I might describe their output as "esoteric" and (probably unfair) comparisons to the National Inquirer and other sensationalist works came to mind.

 

I would like to see a serious scholarly publisher behind such works, such as those suggested by Matthew.

 

(No insult to any individual or publisher intended.)

 

 



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 03:25 PM

I agree with both Alistair and Matthew.

 

In fact, I have been advocating Charlesworth's two-volume set for some time (as it is more in my area), though Schneemelcher's New Testament Apocrypha would be equally welcome.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 03:57 PM

I don't know how it relates to the other works mentioned, I have a paper copy of The Apocryphal New Testament by Montague Rhodes James (OUP 1955). Is that any good? Has it been revised or updated since?



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:28 PM

We have been pursuing Charlesworth for a long time (the work, not the scholar who treated us to a delightful dinner recently).


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:05 PM

I don't know how it relates to the other works mentioned, I have a paper copy of The Apocryphal New Testament by Montague Rhodes James (OUP 1955). Is that any good? Has it been revised or updated since?

 

This is a standard translation of New Testament apocrypha that originally appeared in the 1920s.  It was widely used until the appearance of more modern editions, such as R. McL. Wilson's edition of Hennecke-Schneemelcher (the work I mentioned above).  Specifically, it has been superceded by J. K. Elliott's The Apocryphal New Testament (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2005).  Elliott's introduction describes his work as a successor to James.  

 

Elliott's work would also be an excellent addition to Accordance, but I've heard through the grapevine that OUP can be difficult to work with at times.  


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:10 AM

[Chuckle] Matthew, I think I've been listening to the same grapevine! :unsure:


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:45 PM

Of course these are no lost books of the Bible.  Pseudepigrapha is not scripture.  Still they are interesting.  But why leave out the Dormition of Mary (which has a very interesting instance of apostasia for a literal [non-doctrinal] departure)?

 

As to OUP, why didn't Scofield & the NSRB folk, have trouble working with them?  Or did they?

 

Isn't RH Charlesworth (1913) public domain by now?


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:53 PM

Charlesworth's OTP was published in 1983…not public domain.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:54 PM

Isn't RH Charlesworth (1913) public domain by now?

 

This is surprisingly tricky, since the two major translations of Old Testament apocrypha and pseudepigrapha have been edited by scholars with very similar names!  The two-volume edition edited by R. H. Charles was published in 1913, and is now in the public domain.  PDF editions are freely available through websites such as archive.org.  (An Accordance module is also available.  See here.)  The two-volume edition edited by James Charlesworth was published in 1983 and 1985.  Although Charles' edition retains some value, Charlesworth's edition is now the scholarly standard.  



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

Hopefully this will make someone smile. As I'm not in academic circles, I have to ask where Bart Ehrman fits in with his lost christianities (2003) and lost scriptures (2003), both OUP? I had assumed the latter is his translation. How do they equate with those mentioned above? ( not asking for them to be added to accordance) just wondered how they are regarded amongst scholars. ;o)

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 04:40 PM

Hopefully this will make someone smile. As I'm not in academic circles, I have to ask where Bart Ehrman fits in with his lost christianities (2003) and lost scriptures (2003), both OUP? I had assumed the latter is his translation. How do they equate with those mentioned above? ( not asking for them to be added to accordance) just wondered how they are regarded amongst scholars. ;o)

 

Ehrman's Lost Scriptures, like some of the other works mentioned above, is a compilation and translation of primary sources.  Some have been translated by Ehrman himself; others are taken from standard translations of New Testament apocrypha.  (For example, the translations of most of the Nag Hammadi documents are those that appear in James M. Robinson's The Nag Hammadi Library in English.)  I haven't heard of any serious objections to the translations themselves.  When I was in college, we used the book in a class on New Testament apocrypha.

 

Ehrman's Lost Christianities, on the other hand, is a monograph on the development of early Christianity, not a collection of primary texts.  Some scholars buy his conclusions; others don't.   







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