Michel Gilbert Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Hi, I got Acc working with the latest Wine 1.7x and Wine Staging. My preliminary report – there's a lot of flashing and flickering; there are no visible menu items below the top tab of a module's name, i.e., right down to where the change font size, Set Text Pane Display, etc. menu should be, but you can see these items when you hover the mouse, and you can click on them; and, everything seems to work, e.g., Hebrew construct searches. My next steps – I'll keep Acc activated in Ubuntu, and see if updates to Wine, Acc, or any other advice might help. I'll keep you posted, and even send screen shots once I learn how to take them in Ubuntu. Thanks to all for this post. Regards, Michel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Gilbert Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'll . . . send screen shots once I learn how to take them in Ubuntu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Francis Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I am very happy that you have one of the best if not the best (there is always going to be debate). Bible software working on Linux. Thank you for sharing the screen shot. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Thanks for your work on this Michael. It gives me great hope in case one day Apple decides to retire the Mac and concentrate solely on iOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Gilbert Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hi Rick, I'm amazed at how similar Ubuntu is to Snow Leopard. I'll probably experiment with Acc in another Linux VM, to try to resolve the flickering and flashing when I hover the mouse. If Acc offered a Linux version, I would migrate from Logos to Acc, and leave Windows for good. There must be others who would do the same. Regards, Michel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Francis Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) I was feeling very impish tonight and reminded the mega thread on Linux over in L land that people do having Accordance running on Linux with the latest Wine 1.7x and Wine Staging. I did that because it sounds like it will be a cold day before their program will ever work in Linux. -Dan PS: I promise not to tease the people with software with that works... hehehehehe Edited December 30, 2015 by Dan Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Gilbert Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hi Dan, Logos has made it clear they won’t develop a Linux version, although they might change their mind if the year of Linux ever arrives. I was going to switch to Mac, but Ubuntu is so much like Snow Leopard, familiar and stable, that I switched to Ubuntu instead. I'll eventually save quite a bit of money on hardware (Linux can run on almost anything) and software (no more yearly anti-virus). I would like to put that money toward Acc modules. But, I would feel better doing it if Acc offered a Linux version. I think the year of Linux may be coming soon. It is definitely easier to install programs now, you can run familiar programs natively like Chrome (with Netflix), Adobe and other pdf readers, Libre Office, and Scrivener (Linux version is free), and others in Wine, like MS Office (with system wide keyboards), and of course, the cloud office suites, etc. I also have to say that for my needs, Unicode Hebrew copy and paste works better between programs in Ubuntu than in Snow Leopard. I just hope Acc doesn't mind resetting my Activations if I use them all up trying to solve the flickering issue. Regards, Michel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'm not a Linux user, but I have almost heard, that OS X and Linux are on the base the same. So I'm always staggered that the software for Linux which runs on a compiler are from Windows and not from Mac which were nearer. Can someone explain me why this is so? Greetings Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Linux and OSX are actually in origin from different flavours of Unix if you like. Linux comes from Linus Torvalds efforts to produces a free Unix-like operating system. OSX comes out of the Mach BSD Unix lineage. So at root they are not from the same line though they look at many OS concepts in broadly similar ways as do most (all ?) *nix OSes. The Windows and Apple libraries and development system are about equally proprietary. What differs and makes Linux using Windows binaries possible is that Wine was developed to provide a high level Windows interface running on Linux. This has not to my knowledge been done for OSX. To do this in a way that does not require a recompilation of the binary programs requires of course compatible hardware, which basically means Intel architecture (that's too general a term of course because Intel makes many chips - but basically Intel x86 lineage), which most Windows programs are built for. This was not always possible on Mac of course but with the Power PC days gone it's at least vaguely conceivable. Thx D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Danke Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) You can run accordance 11 in wine with playonlinux using wine 1.7.55 prefix, or pretty much any version of wine after 1.7.44 from staging, it has the patches to get the 11 version up and running. But here is a candidate to get Accordance 11 ported to native linux. Here is a link to two screen shots, http://imgur.com/a/0PygF , one as it idles and one where you get to see the text while hovering the mouse over a 'magic' spot. Edited July 18, 2016 by salamanderrake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Its the same with wine 1.9.13 and 1.9.14-staging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rft183 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'll have to see if I can get it running via Wine. I have an entire VM with Windows 10 for Logos, so it would be nice to be able to run Accordance with only Wine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) I'll have to see if I can get it running via Wine. I have an entire VM with Windows 10 for Logos, so it would be nice to be able to run Accordance with only Wine! Be warned, the gui is busted on the lastest Accordance, I don't know which version actually broke it though, I just know it was on Accordances side as the 1.7.44-staging and up are broken in the same way. If you want to get it working just try using playonlinux, as you can switch versions of wine pretty easy. Edited July 19, 2016 by salamanderrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rft183 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Be warned, the gui is busted on the lastest Accordance, I don't know which version actually broke it though, I just know it was on Accordances side as the 1.7.44-staging and up are broken in the same way. If you want to get it working just try using playonlinux, as you can switch versions of wine pretty easy. Darn, I thought it was working. Thanks for letting me know. Yeah, I pretty much only use PlayOnLinux when I get things going with Wine. It really does make things a lot easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Did you see my screen shots, its workable, but way buggy, more buggy then what it was when it first started working with wine. I didn't mean to give the impression that its broken, but that the rendering is messed up some how, maybe I will go on #winehq and harass a dev to see if they can look at it. Edited July 19, 2016 by salamanderrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rft183 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Yes, I see the screenshots. I will still probably look at trying it out. It'll be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Yes, I see the screenshots. I will still probably look at trying it out. It'll be fun Got some good news, its a little more work but still worth it, follow this post, http://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/17818-installing-on-debianlinux-with-internet-connection-problem/?p=8913111.0.6 is acceptable, its not perfect, being in wine thats fine, but you will need wine staging/winehq staging depending on your distro. If its ubuntu there is a ppa with a winehq-staging build that will work, it will be 1.9.14, pol has internet connection issues. Do not upgrade the app once you have it installed, it will break for you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Here, http://imgur.com/a/0PygF , I updated my set of screen shots with a little more info. Sometime after 11.0.6 I believe they changed/updated their UI toolkit, or at least thats how it looks to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) I have a questions for the devs, since you are using Lazarus/Delphi/Pascal, why not just create a native port of Accordance on linux? Edited July 20, 2016 by salamanderrake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Here is a video highlighting issues with the gui in Accordance 11.2.2 and wine 1.9.14 ( note this is not wine staging, as the changes in Accordance some time after 11.0.6 allowed it to render without the wine patch but broke the ui in other areas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psM12I9lFog and here https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40991 is my wine bug report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Porting to linux, despite the fact that part of our development process uses Lazarus, would be very costly, and there is unfortunately not much user demand, this thread notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 What if the community did crowd funding to raise the money to port it over to linux, how much would it cost, and/or maybe find a team in the community to do the porting, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rft183 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I did get 11.0.6 working using PlayOnLinux and the 1.9.14 staging version of Wine. As far as POL not getting internet, after I closed Accordance and reopened it, it installed Gecko, and then connected. I haven't gotten a chance to play with it to see how usable it is, since it took so long to download resources! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salamanderrake Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah, Accordance 11.0.6 does seem more solid with wine 1.9.14 staging, then 11.2.2 does with any version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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