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#1 Keith Hill

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Posted Yesterday, 07:14 AM

Hi,

 

I'm trying to create a vocab list for words that occur in Gen 37, with a frequency of 1-99 times in the whole OT. Is anyone able to walk me through the process?

 

Thanks,

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Posted Yesterday, 08:04 AM

Hi, Keith!

 

Try this: [COUNT 1-99] <AND> [RANGE Gen 37]

 

Enjoy!


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Posted Yesterday, 08:25 AM

Hello Tim

 

Why not a search for [COUNT 1-99]  Select Gen-Mal and then a new Tab with [HITS] <and> [Range Gen 37]?

 

With your solution I have in my Bible 183 hits and the other 503 hits.

 

Because he wrote "that occur the whole OT"

 

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Posted Yesterday, 02:39 PM

Thanks Fabian,

That'll do it.



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Posted Yesterday, 02:44 PM

I agree. I was trying to do it all on a single screen, as I was on my iPhone.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:47 PM

Hello Tim

 

Thank, 'cause I was even not really sure if my solution is right.

 

Greetings

 

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To Keith, It was nice to help you. I'm in the learning process too...


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Posted Today, 06:52 AM

Hi maybe I am missing something here, but using the HMT-W4, both the methodologies give the same results (108 hits). They perform the same function.

 

The COUNT 1-99 will always count the entire search text, unless it is constrained by a custom range (not a RANGE command). The RANGE command then just displays the results from the pericope specified in the RANGE command.

 

That is exactly what the more complex Fabian system does. They are only not equivalent when the search text  (in this case) is not just the OT - e.g. if we were doing an English or other language text.


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Posted Today, 08:08 AM

I was going to post this last night and then my Mac played up for a bit. Anyhow here it is.

 

Ok so I wanted to suggest a way to do this with just a single tab. And it works in Greek lemma searches just fine. But if you go to an English text you get different numbers.

 

So the plot is to combine both of Fabian's tabs into one. Set a range in the Search Conditions to the OT. And use the combined search string of "[COUNT 1-99] <AND> [RANGE Gen 37]".

 

This works fine for Greek (LXX) and gives the same answer as the two tab method. It is also faster. Incidentally the search ranges defined in the search ranges file on the exchange are such that the OT range when run against Rahlfs does not include the entirety of Rahlfs. I just mention this so it's clear that the search condition range is having an impact in this test.

 

BUT .... If you try this with the ESVS you get very different results. I have not yet been able to explain it. I initially thought it was because you cannot do a lemma search in English but I'm searching the same English translation in both cases. The one tab solution finds 163 flex hits, the two tab 347.

 

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Any ideas why this is ?

 

thx

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