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#1 Michel Gilbert

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 01:57 PM

Hi,

 

I just came into possession of a 2006 MacBook, Dual Core, 1.83 GHz, and I'm thinking about upgrading it to Snow Leopard with 2GB RAM to explore the possibility of migrating to the Mac OS over the next few years.

 

Before I embark on such an enterprise, any comments and suggestions would be most welcome, especially about how well Accordance runs on an older Mac.

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:01 PM

I think you'll be surprised how well Accordance runs on it!


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:16 PM

Hi,

 

Just based on that answer, I'll start the adventure. It's a busy time on the homestead tilling, gardening, landscaping, and repairing buildings, so it will take me a while before I upgrade. But I may find time tomorrow when it's raining to order Snow Leopard and the RAM.

 

One of the things I like to do on my breaks is glance at this Forum. Thanks Dr. J and everyone else for making it such an enjoyable experience.

 

Well, back to digging new garden beds and drainage ditches.

 

Regards,

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:20 PM

Accordance is one of the most well written programs I have found. You can use it on a very old mac and find it works faster than you could think possible. Till a couple years back they were still supporting macs that were using classic OS... Until it died last fall I was running Accordance 9 on a iMAC G5 and it worked, perfectly. Indeed Accordance so strongly  values all their customers that 9.6.6 which was suppose to be the last version got a minor update to correct a bug. Now there will obviously be new features that one will not find support for in this older version. But this shows you the level of commitment you find in Accordance. It is extremely well programer and will give you great results even on older machines.

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:21 PM

I've never run Accordance on anything but a Mac, and have owned an Accordance license since 2003.  Runs really well.


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:08 PM

Michel, if you have an Apple store close by or maybe contact them online and see if  replacing the hard drive with a flash drive would help too. 


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Posted Yesterday, 08:02 AM

I would be cautious putting too much money into that MacBook. They are notorious for bad batteries, and sometimes overheating. You can buy a few year old MacBook Air for a decent price and it will run the latest OS, much better battery, flash drive, etc. 

 

That said, it will run Accordance just fine on 10.6.8 and 2GB RAM.


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Posted Yesterday, 09:12 AM

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks for the input. I appreciate all the comments.

 

I've been thinking for a while about switching to Mac. When I got this MacBook for free, I checked the minimum system requirements for running Accordance, BW, Logos, Scrivener, Libre Office (4.3), PDF Studio, etc., and they all run on OS X 10.6. Snow Leopard is $22.99 and 2 GB RAM is $29.74 at Amazon. That's all the money I would put into it.

 

I expect that all the programs except Logos (not enough RAM) would run quickly and smoothly, so I will be able to try a Mac before buying. I assume that the Mac experience in Snow Leopard is not that much different than the newer versions. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

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Posted Yesterday, 09:28 AM

I think you'll be very happy, Michael. That's incredibly cheap for any kind of computer, especially a Mac.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:27 PM

I'm tired of hardware failure. I'm using different Windows versions, and I'm contemplating which kind of HDD or SSHD to order to my second oldest laptop. There is an expensive HDD 250 GB which would ship new which can take a bit of vibrations, pretty extreme temperatures even under operation and high altitudes, and it tries to keep the distance between the read or write head and the disk constant, also it spins a little slower than standard disks, little over 4k rpm - which helps save battery a little although I think it does consume some electricity because of all the technology, and it would be slower than the disk which is in the computer now (a 2013 hybrid disk 5,400 rpm S-ATA II, with 8 GB NAND Flash part). Or an SSD. I would expect the expensive HDD to last longer even though an AMD SSD doesn't seem bad at all - it's just that SSD:s just stop functioning when there's an error while HDD:s and hybrid drives can be repaired to a small extent. And if I would buy an SSD I would prefer an S-ATA II disk. As I always mirror old content to new disk, the frequency of how often to replace the disk before there are any errors on it, may decide what I will do.
What would be optimal for me would be a hybrid drive with 16 GB NAND Flash and preferably 5,400 rpm but I've looked in several stores and haven't found one. Unless someone helps me to find one I'm unlikely to find that configuration. I'm situated in Europe. I even looked at amazon.co.uk but not at the ones that cost hundreds of £.
With 250 GB (an SSD or the expensive HDD) there's not too much wiggle room regarding storage space. Bigger disks would seem unrealistically expensive. I'm not sure if this matters much as I rarely add more installations. The computer uses at least about 130 GB of the disk right now and I'm probably installing about 25 GB more on it, and documents and pictures use up only a little space. SSD:s wear out faster if they are more than half-full than if only a third is in use.



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Posted Yesterday, 03:53 PM

A Mac which would run both Accordance and Verbum 6 well, would be: http://www.blocket.s...5.htm?ca=11&w=2 rather old ad from April 19.
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CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
RAM: 8 GB DDR3, upgraded in a shop two years ago.
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128 GB SSD two years old, changed in a shop.
Two chargers included.
Price: $409

EDIT: Or a Mac just like the above but not with two chargers and with 4 GB RAM instead of 8 GB and 256 GB SSD instead of 128 GB: http://www.blocket.s...76433.htm?ca=11

$292. The ad is so old it will disappear in a couple of days.

A Mac such as in the OP, and that would barely run Logos 4 or maybe Verbum 5: http://www.blocket.s...0.htm?ca=11&w=2 rather old ad from April 16.
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Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz
RAM: 2 GB. Is that likely to be upgradable to 4 GB?
Drive: 160 GB HDD. Would probably need to change it to a new drive at once since it may be worn out, is it better to mirror the old drive or install from scratch if I haven't installed Mac:s since the mid '90s?
Bad battery, lasts five minutes. Can new batteries still be bought?
Price $109.

Which Mac do You think is a better purchase? Or to upgrade my Windows machines with for example SSD:s and/or more RAM (I have several Windows machines)? (But my second oldest laptop has max RAM 8 GB.)


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Posted Yesterday, 03:57 PM

Michel, let us know how it goes. There are some who say that Snow Leopard was the last great operating system for Mac.
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Posted Yesterday, 04:23 PM

I plan to. I'm trying to figure out the best OS, apps, and workflow combination to begin writing.

 

If I switch to OS X, I'll use many of the same programs as I do in Windows. My concerns with Windows are of a more philosophical nature. But if I find something interesting along the way, I'll post it.


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Posted Yesterday, 05:57 PM

OS X 10.6 will be fine to run Accordance and likely will be ok for your other APPS mentioned. I am not aware of the max OS that your machine can use.... (10.6.8 is maximum for an early 2006 book if it was the model that was released November 2006, 10.7.5 is an option, the best thing about 10.6 is it still allowed you to use PPC based Apps, where as the Lion advantage is that it allowed you to use the Mac APP store)

 

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​PS: If LOGOS interests you although you will not get use on this free computer Logos 5 is the highest you can do as 6.0 requires 10.9 or above.

 

PPS: Logos is not going to function well for you, because even on a top of the line machine Logos feels sluggish on load up and somethings. It's the nature of the Logos program.


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Posted Today, 02:27 AM

I was very happy on snow leopared and only upgraded to mountain lion just before the last os upgrade as i wanted to have an os in case i bought a daw and knew it wouldnt run on the older system. I havent upgraded as my cs4 will stop working and i dont want to upgrade that.

You will be fine, and if you want to run windows in parallel or some other system, you will be amazed at how fast it runs!

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Posted Today, 05:32 AM

I know the newest version wants lots of RAM, advanced users will want 16 GB. Earlier versions 4-5 may perhaps run with 4 GB, maybe not simultaneously with Accordance or what do You think? Logos always uses lots of RAM during indexing but also continuously. The newest Macs I mentioned in my previous post were from mid-2010, the CPU is perhaps not new enough to run Logos or Verbum well (not even version 5?)? My oldest laptop has Windows 7, Core 2 Duo and an SSD and runs Logos 5 and Verbum 5 almost well enough to be used properly, with 4 GB RAM - that computer is from 2009. The Mac version needs much more RAM, especially the newest version:

PPS: Logos is not going to function well for you, because even on a top of the line machine Logos feels sluggish on load up and somethings. It's the nature of the Logos program.






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