Search for Prepositional Phrase 'Sandwiches'

[Julia Falling]

Hey –

 

In class a couple of years back, I ran into a prepositional phrase within another prepositional phase.  When I emailed professor, he replied that it was indeed a 'prepositional phrase sandwich.'

 

Here is a search to find the rest of them.  Interesting.  With the Greek structured this way, it is very clear what the embedded phrase is modifying.  The hit count is 14, but there are only 11 actual occurrences,   Three of the hits, however, have a word in the midst of the group, dividing it into two pieces, that is not highlighted — I think that may be why the count is 14.

 

Rom 11:24 is the only hit that has a finite verb in the middle of it all.

 

Here is the list of hit verses:  Acts 9:19; 16:2; 24:24; 27:2; Rom 1:12; 11:24; 1 Cor 16:19; 2 Cor 5:12; Gal 1:17; 1 Pet 1:10; 3:15.

 

And here is the construct search.  Cool.  I love Accordance!

 

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Nice one. I'd never thought of that sort of construction as a prepositional phrase within a prepositional phrase. I'd always thought of it as an embed (embedded phrase) within an object of a preposition. Funny how the mind works - well perhaps just how mine works

 

Thanx for this

D

[mortenjensen]

My compliments, Julie, this is well thought through

[mortenjensen]

Btw, can you save constructs for later use without having to save the entire workspace?

Morten

 

Found out that you can save it as session

Edited November 25, 2015 by mortenjensen

[Λύχνις Δαν]

No not that I know of - but I've wanted a way to do it for a long time.

 

Thx

D

[rwrobinson88]

Yes. This would be very helpful! 

[Λύχνις Δαν]

For now though you could save the search tabs (which is not much different from saving the workspace) to a special directory on your filesystem. The thing that's missing though is being able to describe the search in more than just the name.

 

What might be nice would be being able to drag and drop a construct to and from a user tool.

Or have a constructs category in the library with a bunch of save searches kept there, annotated with a description.

 

Thx

D

[Michel Gilbert]

Hi Daniel,

 

I posted elsewhere, "I'm also sure that some Users would like to select popular searches from a menu, e.g., you [Dr. Holmstedt] write the searches, they fill in Lexical items, etc. I'm torn on this. Sometimes speed and simplicity is good. But, they would miss out on the greater learning experience, which is more important in the end."

 

Regards,

 

Michel

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Oh vaguely recall this - reading it again now, I see you're advocating a sort of search template. That could certainly find use. And a few canned ones pre-installed would be nice too.

 

Thx

D

[Julia Falling]

Btw, can you save constructs for later use without having to save the entire workspace?

Morten

 

Found out that you can save it as session

 

Morten –

 

You can save any workspace.  I do it all the time.  Go to File > Save As, then give it a descriptive name.  I have lots and lots of saved workspaces.  The two I use every day are one for Scripture reading (called Daily Reading) and another for my Prayer Journal.  I have another saved for doing my homework (currently sitting in on a Greek class at a local Christian college).

 

EDIT:  I saved the workspace shown above and closed it.  when I double click on it, it opens right up with everything in place.  (And thanks, Morten, for the encouragement.)

Edited November 25, 2015 by Julie Falling

[Ken Simpson]

The thing that's missing though is being able to describe the search in more than just the name.

 

D

Well, that’s not true (if I have understood your complaint correctly). There is a text field where you can put quite complex descriptions of the construct

 

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Ah ... I stand corrected. And that gives me an idea.

 

Thx Ken.

D

[rwrobinson88]

How would one take advantage of this feature though?

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Actually less than I had hoped.

You can put a descriptive string but it cannot contain carriage returns even though it can run to multiple lines and the box can be resized.

In addition it cannot be seen anywhere except when the tab is open.

 

Thus it isn't much help in finding the right tab to use.

 

I was then looking at a possible user tool and link set up but you cannot link to a tab that I can see, which precludes using that to bring a tab to the fore from a UT link.

 

Finally, I tried setting up a workspace with a single search tab and multiple constructs and a UT documenting what they did and noting which tab was used for what. My plot was then that you just click in the search bar of the text tab and hit ctrl-shift-L and then select the tab from the pull down list that matched the name given in the UT. This foundered on Windows due to http://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/17336-1111-ctrl-shift-l-for-link-does-not-work/, but it will work on Mac. And hopefully will resume working on Windows when the bug is fixed.

 

This is not as whizzy perhaps as I'd have liked but the UT does give you a good way to document anything about searches that you want.

I'll play with it a bit more and see how I like it.

 

Thx

D