Missing verses from search results

[Antony]

Why do hits from the following command entry sometimes (not always) omit entire verses which should show up in the hits results? For example, in the NA28 the command entry

 [RANGE eph 4] <AND> ([ADJECTIVE] <OR> [ADVERB] <OR> [ARTICLE] <OR> [CONJUNCTION] <OR> [iMPROPERPREPOSITION] <OR> [iNTERJECTION] <OR> [NOUN] <OR> [PARTICLE] <OR> [PREPOSITION] <OR> [PRONOUN] <OR> [VERB])

should return every word in Ephesians 4 since the command entry covers every part of speech, but the hits omit every word in Ephesians 4:23, giving a total of 476 hits. By contrast, the command entry [RANGE eph 4] <AND> *  rightly gives 483 hits, which includes the 7 words from Ephesians 4:23.

 

Likewise for the range Mark 3, in NA 28 the first command entry misses every word in Mark 3:2, 3:15, 3:17-18, 33, so it only gives 475 hits instead of the 546 hits from [RANGE mk 3] <AND> * . However some other ranges work ok, for example, using the range of Ephesians 1-3 gives equal number of hits using both methods.

 

(I tried the Textus Receptus also and the first method also misses Ephesians 4:23, while missing Mark 3:2, 15-18. )
 

Edited January 2, 2016 by Antony

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Hi Antony,

 

  I tried your first query against "NA28 Greek NT" and in 11.1. it appears it's no longer valid syntax. You need to replace the <OR> with a comma in every case. Once that's done the query returns 483 hits - that is all words in Eph 4. I got similar results against TR, Westcott Hort and EPT.

 

  What version are you running this on ?

 

Thx

D

[theblackbluejay]

Daniel,

 

How did you find out that the <OR> command is invalid syntax in this case? Did you receive an error message, or by some other means?

 

Thanks,

 

David

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Hi David,

 

  It popped up an error dialog telling me to change the <OR> to a single comma. I believe it's only invalid in that context - within ( ).

 

Thx

D

[Antony]

hi Daniel,

 

thanks for the post. I'm using the latest update 11.1.2 on Mac Yosemite. I don't get any errror message at all when I cut and paste the following command:

[RANGE eph 4] <AND> ([ADJECTIVE] <OR> [ADVERB] <OR> [ARTICLE] <OR> [CONJUNCTION] <OR> [iMPROPERPREPOSITION] <OR> [iNTERJECTION] <OR> [NOUN] <OR> [PARTICLE] <OR> [PREPOSITION] <OR> [PRONOUN] <OR> [VERB])

 

But I just tried changing all the <OR> commands to commas, and you're right that gives the correct number of hits:

 [RANGE eph 4] <AND> ([ADJECTIVE] , [ADVERB] , [ARTICLE] , [CONJUNCTION] , [iMPROPERPREPOSITION] , [iNTERJECTION] , [NOUN] , [PARTICLE] , [PREPOSITION] , [PRONOUN] , [VERB])

 

That works for Mk 3 as well, in both NA28 and the Textus Receptus. But I still don't understand why I get different results with the <OR> command, without any error message.

[Antony]

Actually, no it doesn't work because although using the commas instead of <OR> gives the right number of hits, the graphical analysis default analytics from the comma method just lumps all the words into one big list, instead of grouping them according to their part of speech. My whole purpose for using the long <OR> entry command was to get a list in graphical analysis default analytics of all the words in a given range grouped according to their part of speech.

Edited January 2, 2016 by Antony

[Joel Brown]

Antony, why don't you use the Analysis Graph set to Part of Speech?  I was trying to figure out why you were constructing your search in this manner.  Also, if you set the Range condition (using the + button) rather than [RANGE], the results work properly.  It has always been a bit difficult when you string so many commands together.

[Antony]

Hi Joel,

 

Thanks for the post. I meant a list in default analytics  in which the words were grouped according to parts of speech, I wasn't referring to anything graphical. I corrected my typo above. You're right it works if I set the range button using the + button, and then use the <OR> commands, with or without the parentheses at either end. Thanks.

Edited January 2, 2016 by Antony

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Ok and to wrap up the <OR> versus comma I cannot repro. the error I was seeing and either syntax runs, though giving different results as noted above. I will open a separate topic on the issue of the error dialog when I work it out.

 

I see your point on the analysis display though. I never knew they were different.

 

I get this for <OR> :

 

Total number of verses = 31
  (total number of verses displayed = 31)

[ADJECTIVE]  (42 total words)

Number of different forms = 15:

        ἀγαθός    good = 2
        ἅγιος    (ἅγος)    holy; (neut) sanctuary = 2
        διάβολος    (διά, βάλλω)    enemy, adversary, devil = 1
        εἷς    (εἷς_1)    one = 9
        ἕκαστος    each, each person = 3
        εὔσπλαγχνος    (εὖ, σπλάγχνον)    tenderhearted, compassionate = 1
        ἴδιος    one’s own, peculiar = 1
        καινός    new = 1
        κατώτερος    (κατά)    lower = 1
        παλαιός    old = 1
        πᾶς    all, every; the whole = 16
        πρότερος    (πρό)    former, formerly = 1
        σαπρός    (σήπω)    rotten; counterfeit = 1
        τέλειος    (τέλος)    complete, perfect = 1
        χρηστός    (χράομαι)    kind = 1


[ADVERB]  (12 total words)

Number of different forms = 6:

        ἀξίως    (ἄξιος)    in a worthy manner = 1
        καί    and, also, even, and yet, but = 5
        μᾶλλον    more, rather = 1
        μηκέτι    (μή, ἔτι)    no longer, no more = 3
        οὕτως    (οὗτος)    thus, so, in this way = 1
        πλησίον    (+gen) near;  neighbor = 1

...

...

 

and this for comma separated :

 

Total number of verses = 32
  (total number of verses displayed = 32)

([ADJECTIVE],[ADVERB], [ARTICLE], [CONJUNCTION], [iMPROPERPREPOSITION], [iNTERJECTION], [NOUN], [PARTICLE], [PREPOSITION], [PRONOUN], [VERB]) (483 total words)

Number of different forms = 196:

        ἀγαθός    good = 2
        ἀγάπη    love; Kiss of Peace = 3
        ἅγιος    (ἅγος)    holy; (neut) sanctuary = 2
        ἄγνοια    (α, γινώσκω)    ignorance = 1
        αἴρω    to take up = 1
        αἰχμαλωσία    (ἀκή, ἅλωσις)    captivity, captives = 1
        αἰχμαλωτεύω    (ἀκή, ἅλωσις)    to lead captive = 1
        ἀκαθαρσία    (α, καθαρός)    uncleanness = 1
        ἀκούω    to hear, to heed, to obey = 2
        ἀλήθεια    (α, λανθάνω)    truth, truthfulness, faithfulness = 3
        ἀληθεύω    (α, α, λανθάνω)    to tell the truth, prove faithful = 1
        ἀλλά    (ἄλλος)    but, rather, on the contrary = 1
        ἀλλήλων    (ἄλλος)    one another = 3
        ἁμαρτάνω    to sin; err = 1
        ἀναβαίνω    (ἀνά, βαίνω)    to go up, rise up, advance = 3
        ἀνανεόω    (ἀνά, νέος)    to renew = 1
        ἀναστροφή    (ἀνά, στρέφω)    way of life, lifestyle = 1
        ἄνεμος    wind = 1

...

...

 

  Joel, when I add PrtSpeech to the output in the analysis tab I just get one group "no direct translation". Is that correct ?

 

Thx

D

[Joel Brown]

Daniel appears to have found a bug where dragging the PrtSpeech item into the analysis isn't currently working - says "(No Direct Translation)".  This bug has been fixed for the next rev.

 

Anthony, once you are able to do this, you should get exacly your results.  Run your search as a simple * [RANGE Mark 4] search.  Open the Analysis analytic from the bar chart looking icon next to the hits.  Then, type Command-T (or use the Gear menu) to Set Analysis Display.  If you drag PrtSpeech above the leftmost LEX item column, you'll get a nicely formatted result like so (looks better in the program):

 

*  (483 total words)

 

Number of different forms = 198:

 

ADJECTIVE = 42

ἀγαθός good = 2

ἅγιος (ἅγος) holy; (neut) sanctuary = 2

διάβολος (διά, βάλλω) enemy, adversary, devil = 1

εἷς (εἷς_1) one = 9

ἕκαστος each, each person = 3

εὔσπλαγχνος (εὖ, σπλάγχνον) tenderhearted, compassionate = 1

ἴδιος one’s own, peculiar = 1

καινός new = 1

κατώτερος (κατά) lower = 1

παλαιός old = 1

πᾶς all, every; the whole = 16

πρότερος (πρό) former, formerly = 1

σαπρός (σήπω) rotten; counterfeit = 1

τέλειος (τέλος) complete, perfect = 1

χρηστός (χράομαι) kind = 1

ADVERB = 12

ἀξίως (ἄξιος) in a worthy manner = 1

καί and, also, even, and yet, but = 5

μᾶλλον more, rather = 1

μηκέτι (μή, ἔτι) no longer, no more = 3

οὕτως (οὗτος) thus, so, in this way = 1

πλησίον (+gen) near;  neighbor = 1

ARTICLE = 85

ὁ the, who, which = 85

CONJUNCTION = 47

ἀλλά (ἄλλος) but, rather, on the contrary = 1

δέ but, and, now = 7

διό (διά, ὅς) therefore = 2

εἰ if; whether = 3

ἵνα that, in order that, so that = 4

καθώς (κατά, ὡς) as, just as, inasmuch as = 4

καί and, also, even, and yet, but = 20

μέχρι (+gen) up to (prep.); until (conj.) = 1

μηδέ (μή, δέ) nor, and not = 1

ὅτι (ὅς, τίς) that, because, since; why? = 2

οὖν therefore, thus = 2

IMPROPERPREPOSITION = 1

ὑπεράνω (ὑπέρ, ἀνά) (+gen) far above; from now on = 1

NOUN = 126

ἀγάπη love; Kiss of Peace = 3

ἄγνοια (α, γινώσκω) ignorance = 1

αἰχμαλωσία (ἀκή, ἅλωσις) captivity, captives = 1

ἀκαθαρσία (α, καθαρός) uncleanness = 1

ἀλήθεια (α, λανθάνω) truth, truthfulness, faithfulness = 3

ἀναστροφή (ἀνά, στρέφω) way of life, lifestyle = 1

ἄνεμος wind = 1

ἀνήρ man, husband = 1

ἄνθρωπος man, human = 4

ἀπάτη deceit, deceitfulness = 1

ἀπολύτρωσις (ἀπό, λύω) redemption, release = 1

ἀπόστολος (ἀπό, στέλλω) apostle = 1

ἀσέλγεια (ἀσελγής) sensuality = 1

αὔξησις (αὐξάνω) increase; waxing (of moon) = 1

ἁφή (ἅπτω) joint; infection, wound; sand, dust = 1

βάπτισμα (βάπτω) washing, baptism = 1

βλασφημία (βλάπτω, φημί) abusive speech, blasphemy = 1

γῆ earth, land = 1

δέσμιος (δέω) bound, prisoner = 1

διακονία (διά, κόνις) service, ministry = 1

διάνοια (διά, νοῦς) mind, thought, intention = 1

διδασκαλία (διδάσκω) teaching = 1

διδάσκαλος (διδάσκω) teacher = 1

δικαιοσύνη (δίκη) righteousness, justice = 1

δόμα (δίδωμι) gift; dwelling = 1

δωρεά (δίδωμι) gift, bounty; grant = 1

ἔθνος nation, people, Gentile = 1

εἰρήνη peace = 1

ἐλπίς hope = 1

ἐνέργεια (ἐν, ἔργον) working, action, energy = 1

ἑνότης (εἷς_1) unity, oneness = 2

ἐπίγνωσις (ἐπί, γινώσκω) knowledge = 1

ἐπιθυμία (ἐπί, θυμός) desire, lust = 1

ἐπιχορηγία (ἐπί, χορός, ἄγω) supply, support = 1

ἐργασία (ἔργον) work, gain, profit = 1

ἔργον work = 1

εὐαγγελιστής (εὖ, ἄγγελος) evangelist = 1

ζωή (ζάω) life, living, way of life = 1

ἡλικία time of life, life span, height = 1

ἥλιος sun = 1

ἡμέρα day, lifetime, time period = 1

θεός god, God = 6

θυμός anger; soul, spirit, sorrow, mind = 1

Ἰησοῦς Jesus; Joshua = 1

κακία (κακός) evil, trouble = 1

καρδία heart = 1

καταρτισμός (κατά, ἄρτι) training, equipping = 1

κεφαλή head = 1

κλῆσις (καλέω) calling = 2

κραυγή (κράζω) shout, outcry = 1

κυβεία trickery = 1

κύριος_2 (κύριος) (n) lord, master, the Lord = 3

λόγος (λέγω) word, speech, message, argument; book, volume = 1

μακροθυμία (μῆκος, θυμός) patience, endurance = 1

ματαιότης (μάταιος) futility = 1

μεθοδεία (μετά, ὁδός) craftiness = 1

μέλος body part; musical part, melody = 1

μέρος part = 2

μέτρον measurement, dimension; poetic meter = 3

νήπιος infant; child = 1

νοῦς mind, thought = 2

οἰκοδομή (οἶκος, δῶμα) building, building up = 3

ὀργή wrath; anger = 1

ὁσιότης (ὅσιος) piety, holiness = 1

οὐρανός heaven = 1

πανουργία (πᾶς, ἔργον) craftiness = 1

παροργισμός (παρά, ὀργή) wrath, provocation = 1

πατήρ father, Father = 1

πικρία (πικρός) bitterness = 1

πίστις (πείθω) faith, belief, trust; value; proof = 2

πλάνη error = 1

πλεονεξία (πληρόω, ἔχω) greediness; lust; advantage = 1

πλήρωμα (πληρόω) fullness = 1

πνεῦμα (πνέω) wind; breath; spirit, Spirit = 4

ποιμήν shepherd = 1

πραΰτης (πραΰς) gentleness = 1

προφήτης (πρό, φημί) prophet = 1

πώρωσις (πωρόω) stubbornness = 1

στόμα mouth = 1

σύνδεσμος (σύν, δέω) joint; bond, chain; conspiracy; conjunction = 1

σῶμα body; slave = 4

ταπεινοφροσύνη (ταπεινός, φρήν) humility = 1

τόπος place, position; opportunity; passage = 1

υἱός son = 1

ὕψος height = 1

χάρις grace, favor; gratitude; gift = 2

χείρ hand = 1

χρεία (χράομαι) need, use, duty = 2

Χριστός (χρίω) Christ = 6

ψεῦδος (ψεύδομαι) lie; falsehood = 1

PARTICLE = 11

γέ yet, indeed, surely = 1

δέ but, and, now = 3

μέν indeed, on the one hand = 1

μή not, lest = 5

οὐ not, no = 1

PREPOSITION = 52

ἀπό (+gen) from, by, since = 1

διά (+gen) through; (+acc) because of = 4

εἰς (εἷς_1) (+acc) into, to, for (prep) = 12

ἐκ (+gen) of, out of, from = 2

ἐν (+dat) in, with, by, to = 19

ἐπί (+gen/dat/acc) upon, over, on, at the time of, at, to = 2

κατά (+gen) against, down; (+acc) according to = 5

μετά (+gen) with; (+acc) after = 3

πρός (+gen) for; (+dat) at; (+acc) to, toward; (adv) moreover = 3

σύν (+dat) with, besides; (Adv. LXX = untrans Heb. part). = 1

PRONOUN = 35

ἀλλήλων (ἄλλος) one another = 3

αὐτός he, she, it; self, same; they (when pl) = 9

ἑαυτοῦ (αὐτός) of himself, his own = 3

ἐγώ I (sg.); we (pl.) = 2

ὅς who, which, what = 4

ὅστις (ὅς, τίς) who, which, whoever; (neut) whatever = 1

οὗτος this, this one, he = 1

σύ you; you people (when pl) = 10

τις a certain, a, one = 1

τίς who? what? why? = 1

VERB = 72

αἴρω to take up = 1

αἰχμαλωτεύω (ἀκή, ἅλωσις) to lead captive = 1

ἀκούω to hear, to heed, to obey = 2

ἀληθεύω (α, α, λανθάνω) to tell the truth, prove faithful = 1

ἁμαρτάνω to sin; err = 1

ἀναβαίνω (ἀνά, βαίνω) to go up, rise up, advance = 3

ἀνανεόω (ἀνά, νέος) to renew = 1

ἀνέχω (ἀνά, ἔχω) to lift; esteem; hinder, stop;  bear, be patient = 1

ἀπαλγέω to lose all feeling = 1

ἀπαλλοτριόω (ἀπό, ἄλλος) to estrange, alienate, be a stranger = 1

ἀποτίθημι (ἀπό, τίθημι) to put off, away = 2

αὐξάνω to grow; cause to grow = 1

γίνομαι to become, be, be born, be created = 1

διδάσκω to teach = 1

δίδωμι to give = 5

εἰμί (ἐιμί) to be, exist (sum) = 8

ἐκπορεύομαι (ἐκ, πορεύομαι) to go, come out = 1

ἐνδύω (ἐν, δύω) to wear, put on = 1

ἐπιδύω (ἐπί, δύω) to set, go down = 1

ἐργάζομαι (ἔργον) to work = 1

ἔχω to have = 2

καλέω to call, summon, invite = 2

καταβαίνω (κατά, βαίνω) to come down, go down = 2

καταντάω (κατά, ἀντί) to come, arrive = 1

κλέπτω to steal = 2

κλυδωνίζομαι (κλύδων) to be sea-tossed, thrown into confusion = 1

κοπιάω (κόπτω) to toil, grow tired, be weary = 1

κτίζω to create, build, found = 1

λαλέω (λάλος) to speak = 1

λέγω to say, speak, tell = 2

λυπέω (λύπη) to grieve, pain = 1

μανθάνω to learn = 1

μαρτύρομαι (μάρτυς) to testify; to call to witness = 1

μεταδίδωμι (μετά, δίδωμι) to impart, share, distribute = 1

ὀργίζω (ὀργή) to be angry = 1

παραδίδωμι (παρά, δίδωμι) to deliver, deliver over = 1

παρακαλέω (παρά, καλέω) to urge, exhort, comfort = 1

περιπατέω (περί, πατέω) to walk, walk around = 3

περιφέρω (περί, φέρω) to carry about = 1

πληρόω to fill; fulfill = 1

ποιέω to do, make; to work = 1

σκοτόω (σκότος) to darken; blind, stupify, make dizzy = 1

σπουδάζω (σπεύδω) to do one’s best; to hasten, labor over = 1

συμβιβάζω (σύν, βαίνω) to advise; to bring together, unite = 1

συναρμολογέω (σύν, ἁρμόζω, λέγω) to be joined together = 1

σφραγίζω (σφραγίς) to seal = 1

τηρέω to keep, to guard = 1

φθείρω to corrupt, destroy = 1

χαρίζομαι (χάρις) to give, favor, forgive = 2