Vocabulary for Whole Book?

[rkbishop]

I'm working through 1 Peter and want to know if there's a way to display/print all the vocabulary for the book. I'm not looking for the parsing/inflected forms, but the lexical form of all the vocabulary in the book. Anyone know if it's possible to do this, and, if so, how?

[Mark Allison]

[rkbishop]

Mark, thank you! Somehow I'm not able to find that menu where you can do language analysis and the word hits graphic. Can you help?

[Mark Allison]

Sure! After you perform a word search for every word (using the asterisk), the little button that looks like a bar graph will appear. Select that and choose "Analysis".

 

[Ken Simpson]

The analysis button appears after *any* word search where hits are found. It's an amazing little menu. Enjoy!

[Helen Brown]

What Mark said in his first reply was that he searched for ALL words in that range with the asterisk, for example * [RANGE 1Pet].

[rkbishop]

Perfect! Thank you all, Mark, for the new trick, Helen, I needed that clarification.

[Eleuterio]

This Range search is very useful. I can use it for searching repeated lemmas in a given passage. The only problem is this search separates words of the same root.

How can I do a search like this but merging, say, שׁיר (to sing) and שִׁיר (song), in the same item so that I can see that this root is repeated?

[Ken Simpson]

This is where a construct search using the AGREE *root item is ideal

 

 

You can change it from verse (default) using the scope selector (if you press the + button at the right of the search entry area

[Ken Simpson]

And you can exclude the particles, pronouns and para markers which actually give you a really useful, targetted search.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2016 by Ken Simpson

[Julia Falling]

Like rkbishop, I want to generate a vocab list for 1 Peter, but I don't want any proper nouns.  I also want to limit my list to words that are used 35 times or less in the entire NT.

 

Here was my first search of the entire GNT:

 

* [COUNT 1-35] @-[NOUN proper]

 

I still got some proper nouns, however.  I did a two-step search and got rid of the proper nouns.

 

 [HITS Search 1]@-[NOUN proper] 

 

What I wanted to do at that point was trim the entire list down to only the NT words used 35 times or less that can be found in 1 Peter.

 

In a new tab, I set up this search:

 

 [HITS Search 1] [RANGE 1pet]

 

That yielded all of 1Pet minus proper nouns.

 

Limiting the range using the range selection dropdown gave the result.

 

I know I've made some fundamental mistake.  I seem to be suffering from brain cloud, or maybe brain cramp?

 

Appreciate the help that I know someone will offer!

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Hi Julie,

 

  Is this what you want :

 

  One tab "35 or less", range pull down set to all text : [count -35]

  Second tab, range pull down set to 1 Peter :  *@-[noun proper] @ [HITS 35 or less]

 

Thx

D

[Julia Falling]

Daniel –

 

That search gave me all of 1Pet minus proper nouns, too.

 

Hmm.

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Really ? It didn't for me. I got just 403 total words, from 327 different forms according to the analysis tab, none occurring more than 6 times in 1 Peter (35 or less in the NT).

 

For *@-[noun proper] against 1 Peter, I got 1660 total words from 532 forms, and that included some that occurred more than 35 times.

 

Thx
D

[Julia Falling]

Daniel –

 

Here's the first search:

 

 

That is what caused the error, giving me this in the second tab.

 

 

I deleted the * in the first tab and reran the search:

 

 

 

I thought I needed the * for the first search.  That's what messed things up.

 

Here's the resultant analysis window.  Just what I wanted.  Thank you so much, Daniel!

 

 

I've saved the Workspace with a descriptive name for the next time I get a brain cloud.

Edited July 5, 2016 by Julie Falling

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Very interesting Julie. I do not understand why that makes a difference but it clearly does.

 

Against the whole GNT I did these searches :

 

* [count 1-35] find 22688 hits.

* @[count 1-35] finds 23543 as does [count 1-35].

 

* <AND> [count 1-35] finds huge numbers of hits which I think I understand.

 

But I would like to know what "* [count 1-35] " is actually doing. It is definitely returning hit words that have far more than 35 occurrences, but not all of those words. I tried various other forms of the search but could not work it out. I don't know what it's doing.

 

Thx

D

[Mark Allison]

Daniel,

 

Because Accordance treats two or more words as a phrase, the @ connector must be used to distinguish a one-word search with two separate criteria. So, the search *@[count 1-35] finds every word used 1-35 times. 

 

However, because there's no @ connector in your second example: * [count 1-35], Accordance is treating this as a 2-word search. This is what it's looking for:  ANY word that is THEN followed by a word found 1-35 times.

 

Thus, In Matthew 1:0, *@[count 1-35] finds only ΜΑΘΘΑΙΟΝ, which is found 6 times in the GNT, and * [count 1-35] finds ΚΑΤΑ ΜΑΘΘΑΙΟΝ, because ΚΑΤΑ is found 477 times, and is followed by ΜΑΘΘΑΙΟΝ which we've seen is found 6 times.

 

At least I believe this is what is happening; Helen, please correct me if I'm wrong  :-)

Edited July 5, 2016 by Mark Allison

[Helen Brown]

Yes, but you don't even need the asterisk. [count 1-35] alone should find all the rare words. The most important thing id how you set the Range. If you set it with the Range cimmand, the COUNT applies to the number of times the word occurs in the entire text, but it finds only the ones in that book. If you set it with the Range option pop-up menu, the count applied to the book.

 

I honestly have not followed this discussion, but this is a frequent error, as the difference in results only affects the [COUNT].

[Λύχνις Δαν]

@Mark, Thanx. That was it. I considered various possibilities but I hadn't quite got to that. That explains the drop in hit count. Thanx.

 

@Helen, true it's not necessary. I was comparing results to try and get to understanding what was going on so I tried various things.

 

Thx

D

[Julia Falling]

Thank you Daniel, Mark, and Helen!  I think my brain fog may be burning off.

 

I redid the search, this time in a single tab — so much less complicated and confusing — and got the identical result:  403 total words, 327 forms.  The drop-down Range selector is at [All Text].

 

[COUNT 1-35]@-[NOUN proper][RANGE 1Pet]

 

Your explanation, Mark, was very clear, as was yours, Helen.  Daniel enabled me to get the info I wanted, but now I know why my other attempts didn't work.  

 

Wonderful!

Edited July 5, 2016 by Julie Falling