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#1 Scott Peterson

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:35 PM

One of the most accurate English translations that I have encountered is Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (Kregel Publications). Joseph Bryant Rotherham was both a Hebrew and Greek scholar that faithfully "emphasized" the original meaning of the Old and New Testaments.

It would be wonderful to have the Emphasized Bible in Accordance, with the same emphatic marks that Rotheram used (e.g., |text within vertical lines shows strong emphasis|) as in the statement Jesus made in the Matthew 5:3:

||Happy|| the destitute |in spirit.|
(Where the primary emphasis is on "happy" and the secondary emphasis is on "in spirit.")

Also, Rotherham did a superb job of tranlating Hebrew and Greek words into English.

Any chance that the Emphasized Bible might become an Accordance module?

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 02:02 PM

Also, Rotherham did a superb job of tranlating Hebrew and Greek words into English. 

Any chance that the Emphasized Bible might become an Accordance module?

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Rotherham's is freely available on the 'other' platform. :huh:
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Posted 27 June 2015 - 02:25 PM

Please consider adding this valuable resource to Accordance.  It is out of copyright and readily available on the Internet Archive.



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 12:28 PM

Please consider adding this valuable resource to Accordance.  It is out of copyright and readily available on the Internet Archive.

I made a colossal error in judgment the other day when I decided to buy this book at Logos for $10.  I used to have a pretty fairly large original languages focused Logos library that I gave away at version 4 because of the extreme angst I suffered with Logos in general.  So, in my infinite wisdom, I decided that I just had to have the Emphasized Bible in electronic format and I decided to see how it went, along with Logos 6.  BAH!  ALL of Rotherham's notes at the bottoms of the pages are missing.  Rotherham used Ginsburg's notes from the Massoretico-Critical Edition of the Hebrew Bible to mark up the emphasis and assist with the translation of the Old Testament portion of the Emphasized Bible and a whole lot of information that Rotherham had added was just flushed away by Logos.  What a shame.  Well, I can go delete Logos 6 and the whole whopping ONE book that I currently own of their offerings.  I guess that was a cheap lesson, but a lesson all the same.

 

This is just an FYI for those of you that may take the same mis-step that I did.

 

*EDIT* spelling boo-boo


Edited by Michael Miles, 26 July 2015 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:21 PM

 I guess that was a cheap lesson, but a lesson all the same.

 

You can return the book without any problems whatsoever within 30 day period after the purchase.



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:46 PM

Rotherham's is freely available on the 'other' platform. huh.gif

 

I went to Olivetree and installed it, there version is text only with none of the mark ups.

 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:47 PM

You can return the book without any problems whatsoever within 30 day period after the purchase.

In my ignorance of the Logos software, I have just now discovered that the footnotes do indeed exist, but they are included as a zillion popups. I do not believe that I can copy and paste these popup references, so I might just follow through on your tip.  Thank you.



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 01:49 PM

I have a new project in BBEdit as of 5 minutes ago to see about at least getting the Genesis portion of this Bible into Accordance format.  I'm not sure how much time I can allocate to this.



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:11 PM

In my ignorance of the Logos software, I have just now discovered that the footnotes do indeed exist, but they are included as a zillion popups. I do not believe that I can copy and paste these popup references, so I might just follow through on your tip.  Thank you.

I think if you click on the footnote (not just hover over it), a pop up window opens where you can select the text and copy it  ;)



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:13 PM

I think if you click on the footnote (not just hover over it), a pop up window opens where you can select the text and copy it  ;)

You should work for Logos.  Thanks.

 

I have a definite problem with them because of all of the bugs in their software in the past.  Maybe I'll splurge and buy another $10 Logos book now.  :)



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:18 PM

You should work for Logos.  Thanks.

 

I have a definite problem with them because of all of the bugs in their software in the past.  Maybe I'll splurge and buy another $10 Logos book now.  :)

 

Thanks :D

You're probably on Mac I assume. I am on Windows and use Logos heavily for almost 2 years now - haven't experienced any bug. Accordance meanwhile had many bugs (one year heavy use). But now I think Accordance got better at Windows and Logos got better at Mac, so you should definitely give it a second chance :)


Edited by rokas, 26 July 2015 - 02:18 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2015 - 02:30 PM

Thanks :D

You're probably on Mac I assume. I am on Windows and use Logos heavily for almost 2 years now - haven't experienced any bug. Accordance meanwhile had many bugs (one year heavy use). But now I think Accordance got better at Windows and Logos got better at Mac, so you should definitely give it a second chance :)

Yep,  all Macs here now.  I even run BibleWorks 10 on my Macs.   :)

 

I just dropped $10 for the KJV and $10.95 on Ginsburg's work on the Song of Songs.  I hope that I don't blow out an artery dealing with these.  My experience with Logos was that bad.  My study partner uses it extensively and it would be nice to share things in a common format.

 

My patience is getting better, but not with Logos - yet.


I have a new project in BBEdit as of 5 minutes ago to see about at least getting the Genesis portion of this Bible into Accordance format.  I'm not sure how much time I can allocate to this.

I guess I can park BBEdit back in the garage for the time being.  Today has been an interesting day.



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Posted 26 July 2015 - 03:05 PM

Yep,  all Macs here now.  I even run BibleWorks 10 on my Macs.   :)

 

I just dropped $10 for the KJV and $10.95 on Ginsburg's work on the Song of Songs.  I hope that I don't blow out an artery dealing with these.  My experience with Logos was that bad.  My study partner uses it extensively and it would be nice to share things in a common format.

 

My patience is getting better, but not with Logos - yet.

 

That says a lot! And I am happy having BW10 on Windows :)

 

I am not sure about your tolerance levels (i.e. before you judge something as "too buggy too use"), but I'd take a risk and say that you won't be disappointed - happy experience (hopefully)! :)


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Posted 26 July 2015 - 04:44 PM

That says a lot! And I am happy having BW10 on Windows :)

 

I am not sure about your tolerance levels (i.e. before you judge something as "too buggy too use"), but I'd take a risk and say that you won't be disappointed - happy experience (hopefully)! :)

Thanks again.  I'll take it slow with the Logos.  Accordance is my tool of choice, currently.  BibleWorks has always been good to me.



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Posted 11 August 2015 - 04:59 PM

Well, I'd still like to see this study reference available in Accordance.  I really, really tried to go with the L*g*s version, but I ended up getting a refund.

 

The Old Testament portion of this English language Bible was prepared using the notes from the Massoretico-Critical Edition of the Hebrew Bible, and is actually a very valuable resource.  Probably more so than a lot of people would give it credit for with just a cursory investigation.

 

Oh, I ended up spending the refund on my L*g*s resources for products at Accordance.  The spiritual vibe that I get here is a zillion times better.

 

 

 

tl;dr - Still need the Emphasized Bible in Accordance.


Edited by Michael Miles, 11 August 2015 - 04:59 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:57 AM

I have a Rotherham Bible in a box somewhere, I'll have to dig it out and have another look at it.



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:15 AM

I have a new project in BBEdit as of 5 minutes ago to see about at least getting the Genesis portion of this Bible into Accordance format.  I'm not sure how much time I can allocate to this.

Michael...

 

I would very much like a copy of Genesis when you finish. I was also considering doing the same thing. What copy did you start from?


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 05:50 PM

Michael...

 

I would very much like a copy of Genesis when you finish. I was also considering doing the same thing. What copy did you start from?

Well, I did not get far with it at all, but since someone else was interested, I may take it up again.

 

While I'm at it, I may also look at the Hebrew text variants and the notes of Ginsburg's Massoretico-Critical edition of the Hebrew Bible and at least get his original notes into Accordance.  It would also be nice to translate those notes.  If you study the Hebrew while taking in the notes in Ginsburg's collation of the Massorah, the so-called Gap Theory looks to be a plainly evident truth.  Those disjunctive accents and the long run polysyndeton stand in complete contrast to Genesis 1:1.  This is where I am currently turning over rocks in my studies.

 

Let me go see about this...



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:12 AM

I've gathered together some resources that may speed up the process of giving this a go, but I am wondering if the angled brackets/chevrons that Accordance uses internally on documents is going to conflict with the large quantity of these markings embedded in the text of the Emphasized Bible.  I'm not really of the mind to start substituting a different type of bracket and would rather prefer to be faithful to the printed version.

 

I'll try to give this a shot soon and see what happens.   :D



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:46 AM

Well, I got my answer on the angle brackets.  They cannot be used inside a User Bible.

 

The exact error wording that I got back from Accordance was:

 

 

The HTML tag at the end of the text 

 

Genesis 1:1 <In the beginning>

 

is unknown or unsupported.


Edited by Michael Miles, 19 October 2015 - 06:50 AM.





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