Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:26 PM
Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:47 PM
(Disclaimer: I do not work for Accordance.)
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:56 PM
I can try to clarify a bit. The new Starter Collection offers both a major update to the program and some excellent modern resources (that we in turn pay royalties on). The $49.99 cost covers both, and we priced the upgrade to make sure it was a fantastic value even if you already owned the Starter modules. The upgrade from version 8 to version 9 was $49.99 as well, but it did not include modern resources like the tagged ESV Bible, IVP New Bible Commentary, or Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible. So yes, the new Starter Collection a fantastic deal for new users who don't own these resources yet, but current customers are not being charged a penny more than for previous "whole number" upgrades, and version 10 is a big step forward.
Director of Marketing
Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:37 PM
Also remember that this one-time upgrade includes all future 10.x updates, which historically is 2 years of free updates and a myriad of new features.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:10 PM
Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:29 PM
not completely clear if you get what we're asking.
The upgrade fee is $49.99. That includes the update to the Application - and is our standard major revision upgrade fee. Along with this upgrade comes a number of included modules - some of which you may have paid for in the past. I already had the ESVS - for example - a $30 value. These are included with the starter pack. Any other module you already own, you do not need to upgrade. You can use them straight from your current Accordance install.
IF you decide you wish to upgrade even further - say to the Essentials package - then you may be paying for some modules "twice". And you need to do the maths to see if you can justify the cost for the extra modules. That is a personal decision, but you only need to make that if you are going further than the Starter pack (IMHO).
The way I think about the Starter upgrade is that the upgrade is $49.99, what we have paid for a major upgrade for some years, but now included in that are a bunch of free modules - some of which I already own, so anything extra I get in the Starter package is a bonus, and even if I have everything already, it's a brilliant upgrade.
As far as I have seen so far, if you own modules already, they will still all work in Accordance 10.
Edited by Ken Simpson, 29 August 2012 - 02:23 AM.
Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:48 AM
Edited by DWFrancis, 29 August 2012 - 01:49 AM.
Posted 29 August 2012 - 02:05 AM
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:38 AM
In terms of vision, the stuff I've seen for years has now become crisper, clearer and easier to see.
In terms of comfort, the glasses aren't as awkward or heavy and they have new features to lessen the strain.
(edit: lessen, not lesson!)
Edited by Chuck Schneider, 29 August 2012 - 07:42 AM.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:20 AM
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:32 AM
Dan, no one is forced to upgrade. Some may want to wait for Version 11. The program will still work. All the modules will continue to work in Version 9. Skipping a single upgrade will not get a user into a mess later on.
Many of us think Version 10, even just the engine, is worth the price. I also look at the great support from the Accordance folks, the free iOS, the free podcasts. I'm so grateful to the people who do the work and do it so well. I'm grateful, too, that such a powerful tool is available at all. Version 10 is not just a tweaking of Version 9 - it really is an major upgrade. I cannot help but wonder how many man-hours went into development and testing.
I upgrade my OS yearly without hesitation, even when we had to buy a disc and it was more expensive. I upgrade my music software (Finale) yearly, too, and it doesn't get used nearly as much as Accordance. I've always looked at upgrades as just part of owning a computer and software. If there are programs I find less useful, I stop upgrading and just let them die a natural death.
[As an aside, I'm tech support for some Mac families. (Scary, isn't it? The closest Apple Store is 90 minutes away in Knoxville.) One didn't want to pay for OS upgrades. Didn't want to upgrade the old eMac, either. He bought a new iMac and went from 10.4 to Lion. If there had been a computer or OS upgrade in-between, he would have been OK. (Some do that with Accordance.) But because he had gotten SO far behind, Migration Assistant wouldn't work. He had to move everything manually. I think the process went on for months. I'm not sure it's finished at this point. It has been pretty nightmarish. You can be sure that he will never do that again!]
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 01:09 PM
To provide some additional insight, we had two goals when planning the new Starter Collection: 1) Add more/better modules and 2) Offer one low price for everyone.
Add More/Better Modules
Our previous Starter Collection (for Accordance 9) offered the Accordance 9 application, but did not include any modern Bibles, Commentaries, or Dictionaries. For this new Starter Collection, we decided to add a modern Bible (tagged ESV), a modern commentary that covers every book of the Bible (IVP New Bible Commentary), a modern dictionary (Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible), and a tagged original language text (GNT Textus Receptus). This lets new users try out a range of Bible study tools in order to get the full Accordance experience. For current users who are buying the new Starter Collection in order to upgrade to version 10, these resources are simply icing on the cake if they don’t own these modules yet.
One Low Price
Even though we added all these great new modules, we aren’t charging more for the upgrade. Accordance's "engine only" upgrade from version 8 to 9 was also $49.99, so we didn't add these additional modules into the cost. We, of course, pay royalties on them, but we are not passing that cost on to the customer. So if it helps to think about it in these terms, it means you really aren’t paying for them again if you already own them.
For Accordance 9, new users could buy the Starter Collection for $69.99. Current users had a tiered pricing structure. For Accordance 8 users, the upgrade was $49.99; for Accordance 7 users, it was $59.99, and so on. In short, $49.99 was the lowest price we offered. For Accordance 10, we decided to simplify things by moving to a single price point. And even though we added more/better modules, we went with the lowest price point we previously offered—$49.99 for everyone. And of course, full-time ministers, students, and professors pay even less with their discounts.
So for news users, the Starter Collection includes more and costs less than before. For current users, the upgrade includes more and costs the same as before. Even if you are a current user who owns all the modules in the new Starter Collection, you still aren’t paying a penny more than you would have paid for the "engine only" upgrade from Accordance 8 to Accordance 9. We really tried to offer everyone a great deal, and while new users may get an especially good deal, we made sure that wasn’t at the expense of our current users.
I hope this provides some insight into the method behind our madness. We worked very hard to make sure that all of our new Collections were a great deal for both new customers and current customers looking to upgrade.
Edited by Darin Allen, 29 August 2012 - 01:20 PM.
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