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"Queen of Syncing Difficulties"


Julia Falling

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I was not surprised that Accordance thought I had a new computer after Yosemite was installed. It was to be expected. And though having to erase Accordance on the iPad and reload all the modules wasn't much fun, I did it and got it all organized. But then this morning when an Accordance-Mac 'Sync with Mobile Device' was attempted, the same issue showed up again.

 

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All that has happened between the successful sync yesterday and the unsuccessful one this morning is a reboot of both computer and iPad. My iPhone 5s is still syncing perfectly.

 

In the iPad Settings, all the Accordance stuff has been reset more than once (Saved Session Removed, Highlights Reset, Download Cache Cleared).

 

Help! Do I really need to erase and and reinstall? iOS 8.1 is due out tomorrow. Wait and see? A bit frustrated at this point.

 

MacBook Air, mid 2013

OS 10.10

Accordance 10.4.3.2

 

iPad Air 1

OS 8.0.2

iAcc 1.7.6

 

 

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Julia,

 

I'm sorry to hear about your syncing issues. All I can add at this point is that the desktop app determines whether or not to show this dialog window and enforce this limitation. Resetting the various iOS options has no effect on the problem. Hopefully someone from the desktop,app team can offer further guidance.

 

Scott

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Thanks, Scott. And you're right – resetting the iOS options had no effect. Doing so and rebooting the iPad often corrected the Bonjour problems. I was just at the point of trying everything rather and erase and reload. And since I just did that yesterday and nothing has changed, there didn't seem much point in spending all that time redoing it all.

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Julie, did you try deleting your preference files in Accordance on your Mac? (Library, Application Support, Accordance). I had a lot of issues after upgrading to Yosemite, and this solved my issues.

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Ryan – Thanks. Sounds like a plan. I'll give it a try when we get home from school this afternoon. I'm wondering if that may have caused the Accordance-DropBox sync issues as well. Since most of you aren't experiencing these problems, I think it's on my end. I'll report back and let you know what happens.

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Julie,

 

Sorry for your troubles!

 

I will investigate WiFi syncing on Yosemite to determine if something has changed (that would affect how Accordance keeps track of the devices that are WiFi synced). Accordance should be able to remember your device after a system upgrade.

 

Are you using WiFi sync to move more modules to your device -or- for user content syncing? If the latter then (in the meantime) you should be able to “sync user content” to your iPad until we determine the cause of your syncing problem.

 

Mike

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Hey, Mike – Thanks for taking an interest. And I hate to be a bother.

 

I use the wi-fi sync to both load and update. When I work that way, the modules appear in the same order in the sync window as they do in my Library – it makes it so much easier to organize the iPad Library that way.

 

Since no one else seems to be struggling with this stuff, there must be something wrong on my MBA somewhere.

 

Rather than redoing everything from the ground up, perhaps I should start with the Accordance prefs? Is there something short of trashing the entire folder that might work? I didn't see anything in the Preference files that seemed to be sync-specific.

 

I've had problems with the DropBox sync as well. DropBox sync is the fastest and easiest way to update User Notes and User Tools. However, between crashing (mobile device and Mac) and the disappearance of User Notes, I've been holding out until the Accordance-Mac update. But now I'm wondering if all the sync issues have the same source.

 

I may end up as your go-to person when you need to find out how messed up an install can get. I really don't want to be that person, however.

 

If necessary, I have no problems doing a clean install of Mac OS and Accordance.

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Hey, Mike – Thanks for taking an interest. And I hate to be a bother.

 

I use the wi-fi sync to both load and update. When I work that way, the modules appear in the same order in the sync window as they do in my Library – it makes it so much easier to organize the iPad Library that way.

 

Since no one else seems to be struggling with this stuff, there must be something wrong on my MBA somewhere. Rather than redoing everything from the ground up, perhaps I should start with the Accordance prefs? Is there something short of trashing the entire folder that might work? I didn't see anything in the Preference files that seemed to be sync-specific.

 

Given that you are using WiFi syncing for easier setups, etc., let me run some tests on my end before changing/reinstalling anything. I have to revert some things to get back to released copies on my desktops and devices to properly try to recreate your scenario.

 

Mike

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Julie,

 

I was able to “link” my iPhone 5s (iOS 8.0.2) to my MBAir (Yosemite) using Erase and Sync that was previously “linked” to my iMac (Mavericks).

 

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I restarted my MBAir and iPhone and was able to WiFi sync normally.

 

I did discover a bug with Erase and Sync that did not sync over my selected Text modules the first time. I had to sync again to get the Text modules over to my device. iAccord requires at least one text installed to function properly. We are investigating this bug.

 

I suggest that you try Erase and Sync again with your iPad and only sync your first few Text modules. Remember, you will have to repeat the first few Text modules to work around the bug I found.

 

After syncing a few Text modules successfully then restart everything and let us know if you still get the Erase and Sync message.

 

 

Mike

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Mike – I erased and synced the iPad with just the top few modules. And only one of them was actually loaded onto the iPad. That happened the first time I erased and synced, too. I added the next few. Then I rebooted both MBAir and iPad and gave it a try. No recognition problems. Thanks!

 

I'll load a few more modules from the other categories and see what happens.

 

Has something been fixed so that this won't recur, or has something changed in my iPad? And it's odd that I never had the problem with my iPhone.

 

Do you want me to try anything else?

 

Thanks, again.

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Julie,

 

I am not sure what happened the first time. Potentially a sync error (the Text module bug or another error that we don’t properly handle or report) prevented the “link” to be established. Now that the “link” is established then I think you can sync larger sets of modules -or- complete the entire sync set.

 

We will investigate the Text module bug for a future revision of iAccord (nothing fixed yet).

 

Let us know if you are able to get all the modules over to your iPad.

 

 

Mike

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I went ahead and loaded all the modules onto the iPad that I wanted there. Went very smoothly. Now I'm going to reboot everything again and see what happens.

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Rebooted computer and iPad. Synced without a hitch. It appears that the recognition problems were just a fluke?

 

I think I've been dethroned. That's a good thing.

 

Thanks, Mike.

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Well Julie, it looks like I might have taken your place! I have had syncing issues for quite some time. Dropbox is out of course so I now sync by means of a flash drive between my iMac and MacBook Pro. I am UNABLE to sync to my iPad mini. Two days ago (right after Yosemite release) it looked like it was going to work again. It synced some modules but DID NOT sync notes or highlights! I am using Yosemite on both the iMac and the MBP and iOS 8.1 on the mini. I am hoping 10.4.5 might fix this and hopefully Accordance 11 when it arrives.

 

Bob

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Well, Bob, you just can't be Queen, but King is OK. :rolleyes: Not a coveted title, either. What perplexes me is that there really are just a few of us having these issues. The rest of the folks are not posting here about problems. There must be some corruption somewhere on our machines that they don't have. I, too, am hoping that Acc-11 will solve the DropBox syncing issues. It is not too far off. I'm not sure beta testing has begun, however.

 

One thing we might both consider is a clean install of Yosemite, waiting until after Acc-11 is released. If the problems persist, even if sporadic, it would probably be worth the time and hassle. I'm in wait and see mode for now.

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Thought about the king thing after I posted. I did a fresh install of yosemite and still the problem persists! Holding out for 10.4.5 and Acc 11.

 

Bob

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Bob – I think that will probably take care of the problem, especially Acc-11.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I was getting this before updating to Acc-11 during the beta-testing process. Today, incorrectly assuming that things were pretty stable at this point, I decided to go ahead and erase and reload my modules. I was pretty much finished. Everything had loaded without a hitch. I was organizing, adding a few more modules, deleting a few modules. Now Accordance is no longer recognizing my iPad. Ugh . . .

 

I'm experiencing an identical scenario with my iPhone 5s.

 

What do I do? I've rebooted the iPad and restarted Accordance and the problem persists. There have been no updates or changes between erasing and reloading and the recurrence of the error message.

 

I know that there is a new iAcc coming sometime relatively soon, right? Do I just wait?

 

Is no one else having this issue?

 

Thanks!

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Unlink then relink Dropbox? Start with MBA then ipad. Just a guess but maybe worth a try!

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I'm not syncing with DropBox at all. Thinks Things kept disappearing. I'm not going to try it again until no one is having problems with it.

 

This problem is between Accordance/Mac and iAcc only. I may have DropBox issues as well, but I'm unwilling to run the risk of messing things up even worse than they are. I may just have to wait until the next release of iAcc.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I have a syncing problem too and reading this thread I thought, I'll let them know that they're not alone and give them some encouragement. And of course, it's not encouragement at all is it? :( However, I was taught long ago that every time you ask a question there are five other people in the class who are glad that you did.

 

I am just in the process of upgrading my entire Apple setup, MacPro to iMac (yet to be delivered), (old) MacBook Pro to MacBook Pro with retina display, iPhone 4 to iPhone 6, iPad 4 to iPad Air2. :D I know. i know.

Anyway, I was looking forward to using Accordance on my new iPad Air (IOS 8.1.1 ) and attempted a sync with my existing MacPro (OS 10.7.5) but to no avail. The system goes through the initial steps in the normal way and seems to start the sync process but then, after a short delay, I simply get a message which says that it has a problem resolving a Bonjour issue and that I should contact tech support.

 

So, you are not alone. Has there been any input from Accordance tech support on this? But perhaps Mike Garrity is from Accordance, he seems knowledgeable enough. ;)

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Mike –

 

I am now syncing without any problems. Following Bob's example before syncing, I backup. I compress my Accordance Files folder and put a copy on one of those very small USB flash drives that stays in one's laptop. Then I move the compressed file to a folder I created in DropBox for Accordance backups. Then I sync with Dropbox. I'm syncing manually at this point to avoid problems. Redundant backups may not be necessary, but data loss can be a time-waster – better to be on the safe side, I think.

 

For a while I was having problems getting iPhone 5S and iPad Air to sync, but after going to the Settings on the iOS device > Accordance —> Remove Saved Session, Clear Download Cache, Reset User Content, & rebooting iOS device, it synced beautifully. I will still, but only very rarely, get an error message when syncing between iOS and Dropbox, but clearing all the Accordance stuff & rebooting solves the problem.

 

EDIT: Congrats on your hardware upgrades, Mike. We try to stagger our upgrades around here, so the financial hit won't be staggering. At this point however, all my devices are relatively new, the oldest being my Mac mini – two years old this month. Now that I'm buying consumer machines instead of Pro, the cost isn't as bad.

 

We have really been happy with our iPad Airs, and my husband really likes his iPhone 6.

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