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#41 davidmedina

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 01:09 AM

And Accordance lets you put all your personal books on your iPhone/iPad.. you cannot do that yet with them (and no time soon either, although they will sync smaller personal books to other desktop machines you own). As nice as somethings there are the speed of their mobile app compared to Accordance is night and day.

 

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Actually Dan, that is not quite true. You can upload to your road almost everything in your library. The only thing you miss are the sides and collections setting. But you can have almost your entire library in  the ipad and works exactly like Accordance does.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 01:16 AM

Sorry guys, but I have to say I find this unfair.

 

Accordance just as well got many online bugs and server issues when it introduced it's new wonderful upgrade feature. Something similar might come once it's updated to Acc 11.

 

Had Logos 5 for one year now, and really no bugs whatsoever. On the other hand, my Accordance crashed a few times and contains some few small bugs.

 

HOWEVER, none of this is bad. Both companies bring just fabulous things to the table for us to enjoy. I respect both parties that they dare to bring new stuff even when it means problems, bugs, issues and everything else. No risk, no reward.

 

We humans are fallen and to expect perfection isn't normal nor makes one happy  :)

 

EDIT: fixed some grammar

 

 I totally agree with this, Totally Unfair I have been using Logos for over two years without any major issues. No software is perfect and ALL will have bugs, even Accordance. So lets not start the bashing. Please. And Tony, far from glitter, Logos is extremely useful for Bible Study.  Many very happy thousand of Logos users do. In my experience those who complain about Logos have not care to learn it. Things like this bother me a lot. People, they are tools and they BOTH have the same end, HELP us study the Bible. Don't like it, don't buy it.  :angry: I think you guys need to be informed before making statements that are misleading and not true.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:04 AM

Thank you for being at least one person who got my reference.

I am always at least one person. :)


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 07:10 AM

Actually Dan, that is not quite true. You can upload to your road almost everything in your library. The only thing you miss are the sides and collections setting. But you can have almost your entire library in  the ipad and works exactly like Accordance does.


But not personal books in the mobile apps, correct?

Edited by Scott Knapp, 31 October 2014 - 07:11 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 08:06 AM

I agree that broken promises, flawed software, poor customer service, price-gouging, etc., etc. are all important issues. However, let's be fair. Post such complaints on the forums for the company in question, so they have an opportunity to address them. Good companies value customers' feedback. It helps them improve their products and services. I know we at Accordance appreciate it. I'm going to assume other companies feel similarly. Let's do our best to restrict comments on this forum to those relevant to Accordance.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 12:10 PM

I do apologize if I have been anyway unfair towards the competition. I did upgrade there and have been frustrated, I have expressed myself on their forums. In this thread I have only tried to point out ways in which Accordance is better than them. I could easily have noted how mobile Accordance has and awkward selection method compared to them. We know this is being worked on for a more natural selection. A representative from the other company flat-out said personal book sharing with mobile devices was not coming anytime soon (this for me was a disappointment because I had believed that was the point of this forthcoming feature). Sharing was just between computer installs. I could have mentioned that Accordance's user tools defect is that you cannot put pictures in them at this time. Both companies have work to do. Both products are useful. I am not getting rid of either. I realize it is wiser to not bring another company into discussions here at all, this is an Accordance forum. 

 

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:40 PM

I do apologize if I have been anyway unfair towards the competition. I did upgrade there and have been frustrated, I have expressed myself on their forums. In this thread I have only tried to point out ways in which Accordance is better than them. I could easily have noted how mobile Accordance has and awkward selection method compared to them. We know this is being worked on for a more natural selection. A representative from the other company flat-out said personal book sharing with mobile devices was not coming anytime soon (this for me was a disappointment because I had believed that was the point of this forthcoming feature). Sharing was just between computer installs. I could have mentioned that Accordance's user tools defect is that you cannot put pictures in them at this time. Both companies have work to do. Both products are useful. I am not getting rid of either. I realize it is wiser to not bring another company into discussions here at all, this is an Accordance forum.

 

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It does take courage to apologize openly, props for that (even though personally I don't see much guilt in it)! 



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:35 PM

Hi, Everyone!

 

It's not so much what was said, as the direction this thread seemed to be headed. I thought I'd post a gentle reminder to redirect.

 

I also respect Dan's apology and understand there was no ill intent on anyone's part.

 

Peace.


Edited by Timothy Jenney, 31 October 2014 - 03:35 PM.

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 08:05 AM

David Medina, I'm not sure when you jumped on the Logos band wagon but believe me my agravations with there Mac product development is justified. Before I moved to Mac several years ago I was extremely happy and sold on Logos as the best bible software on the market. Then, I moved to Mac and tried to use there first Logos 3 for Mac version which was a total disaster and waited anxiously for the newly announced Logos 4 for Mac which promised to solve all of our problems. Well contrary to what one user stated those of us who bought into it early did in fact purchase and struggle through Alpha releases for several months before promised and still much broken Beta and RC versions came out. They moved onto Logos 5 without ever completing version 4 and regardless of what the software industry as a whole does in providing updates this is not the case with Logos 5 development. These have been ongoing developmental SR's attempting to get their product to the level of what was initially advertised to the consumer and purchased on the premise that soon you would have what the marketing hype promised. Now we have Logos 6 and an outrageous asking price to upgrade. Sorry but I'll stick to the fine work the Accordance development team does and be happy with a product that runs like a Mac app should. Plus an upgraded product with all the new bells and whistles for just $49, I can afford that much easier than $300+.

 

On the other side though since I have such a vast investment in Logos and frequent the communtiy pricing offers; I will continue to use Logos for research using the vast historical resources I have acquired for it. I will say that since upgrading to the latest generation Macbook Pro logos 5 does run smoother but still takes too long to get going compared to Accordance which is just fast and efficient in all it does.

 

Dr. J, Helen and all the rest are always available and helpful to the Accordance community. Thank you for that.



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Posted 01 November 2014 - 08:09 AM

Sorry, Dr. J, I should have read down further before posting the previous reply. I'm done now and waiting patiently for the release of Accordance 11. :)


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:05 AM

Well, back to the original premise of this thread. October is gone and we are into November. How much longer? Can you at least throw us a bone and give us a full preview?
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Posted 04 November 2014 - 01:30 PM

I can't wait for this to come out! I am waiting and waiting and waiting......... :)


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 03:22 PM

The program is done, but those pesky beta testers keep finding bugs, and the developers hate to release bugs into the wild, so they are hunting them as fast as possible. We expect to release in days.


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 03:30 PM

You should exterminate them, Helen. (either the beta testers or the bugs... either one should do it)


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 05:16 PM

After iOS8 and iOS8.0.1 I appreciate companies who really love their customers by not releasing (extreme) buggy software. I better wait a few more days than having a broken software/device.. as happened with iOS 8.0.1 :/ - so take your time and release when its done. Im looking forward to it - what we've seen so far in the sneak peeks looks really interesting.


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 05:30 PM

We're finding and squishing as fast as we can. Better us than you!


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 11:37 AM

Totally agree with JayDee.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 11:47 AM

"Totally agree with JayDee."

 

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 10:57 AM

Personally I also lean with a more bug free experience than a buggy release.. just my opinion though :) I know I am definitely excited for 11 as well but I would also prefer it to be more bug-free when it is released. Longer wait, less headache later :) Keep squashing those bugs!



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 12:14 PM

I expect some bugs in a dot zero release.  The more people challenging the code on different hardware, the more bugs that will be found.  Just as long as the release is stable and the bugs are not showstoppers!


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