R. Mansfield Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The Accordance edition of Zondervan's New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology & Exegesis is now available for preorder! If you purchase the NIDNTTE between now and December 5, you will pay only $159, which is a savings of $90 (or over 35%) off the regular Accordance price of $249. Go to the blog or straight to the product page for more information. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lawrence Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Will there be an upgrade path for those of us who own the NIDNTT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Hey, even cheaper than in other places! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Hi Tony, I am pretty sure they are completely different works, so unless someone knows something I don’t, there should be no upgrade path. Edited November 13, 2014 by Ken Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 It only costs $137.49 if you prefer print copies. http://amzn.com/0310276195 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 True. What I meant was: it's about $1 cheaper in Accordance than in OliveTree and Logos. Not an apples-to-apples comparison, as has been pointed out numerous times by folks in the forums, but nice that Accordance price-matched/offered a slightly lower price anyway. I love The Printed Book. I regularly smell (and am mocked for smelling) new books. I like the way they feel, handle, and look on a shelf. And I cringe a tiny little bit any time copy from any Bible software company disparages the print book to promote an electronic counterpart. That said--I would categorically rather have any alphabetized lexicon in Accordance than in print. Much faster, easier to use, keyed to other stuff nicely, etc. Good idea for Accordance to have a pre-order option here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Mansfield Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 I love the smell of newly digitized books. (there's a bumper sticker for you) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 bumper sticker print or digital? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lawrence Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Hi Tony, I am pretty sure they are completely different works, so unless someone knows something I don’t, there should be no upgrade path. Ken, The NIDNTTE is an expanded and revision of the NIDNTT. Here is Zondervan's description. http://www.zondervan.com/new-international-dictionary-of-new-testament-theology-and-exegesis-set I would be appreciative of someone's opinion who has used the older NIDNTT as compared with the revision. Perhaps Abram K-J could chime in since he has the print edition. I have the older NIDNTT in print and in Accordance. I haven't taken the books off the shelf since purchasing it in Accordance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafeAndersen Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I will probably just order them in print cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Hi Tony, maybe I am misreading this but I don’t think this is the case. Note from the page A standard and widely-used reference work for nearly 40 years, the New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology and Exegesis has been thoroughly revised and updated to aid today’s pastors, students, scholars, and teachers in their study of the New Testament. 1. Colin Brown’s work is called The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, (not “and Exegesis”) 2. NIDNTT was published in 1986 (though earlier in Gernan I admit (1967) So I think they may be different titles. However, I cannot find an edition 1 of NIDNTTE which makes me suspect you may be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Brown Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't think anyone can compare them yet since the print version isn't yet shipping. Yes, there will be an upgrade price, the same as the current pre-release, so if you own NIDNTT there is no hurry to order NIDNTTE now. Prices are set by the publisher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanHuber Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So I think they may be different titles. However, I cannot find an edition 1 of NIDNTTE which makes me suspect you may be correct. I think Tony's right on this. The following link has some interesting info about the set, including comments by Silva himself. http://byfaithweunderstand.com/2014/10/29/the-new-international-dictionary-of-new-testament-theology-and-exegesis/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram K-J Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Tony: I meant "the printed book" in general, not this one in particular. I don't have it. Helen: I've seen a few Facebook friends post photos of their set, received in the mail last week. One was directly from Zondervan; the other may have been through Amazon, so I know people have received and are beginning to make their way through it. But I don't think anyone's posted any observations or reviews yet. Though I do note in the interesting link Jonathan posted that Dan Phillips offers some comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) If you purchase the NIDNTTE between now and December 5, you will pay only $159, which is a savings of $90 (or over 35%) off the regular Accordance price of $249. Since anticipated release is in the spring, will we be charged when it is released? Edited November 14, 2014 by Michael J. Bolesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lawrence Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks Jonathan for the link. It was very informative, especially in the comment section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Brown Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Michael: Your order will be charged when you place it unless you leave a note requesting us to charge it only when NIDNTTE is released, and make sure the order goes to manual processing. It's extra hassle for us to make a separate order and charge it only later, so it's up to you to request that extra step if you want it, there's no additional charge for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael J. Bolesta Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Helen I do not wish to hassle you or anyone at Accordance. I greatly appreciate all you have done over the years. Given the earlier post that the upgrade price is the same as prepublication, there is no need to needlessly burden the sales staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBCjax Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Recently downloaded the upgrade to NIDNTTE. I love the new content. Thanks!! However, when I triple click on a Greek text the old NIDNTT it would show both the "Greek Entry" field and also the "Scripture" field as well. That feature is VERY helpful & does not seem to be working on the NIDNTTE. Is that feature available for the NIDNTTE as well? Am I doing something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Go to your Accordance Preferences—>Amplify—>Include Reference When Amplifying from Text to Tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBCjax Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) I checked that. I have "include reference..." clicked in my prefs. I am not even able to add a field to the NIDNTTE to include "Scripture" to make it work. I fear that each "entry" is somehow separated in the NIDNTTE from the corresponding "article" such that adding fields to clarify search is unavailable. This is one of the BEST features/functions in Accordance tools. Edited October 26, 2015 by SGBCjax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I've found the issue in NIDNTTE. I've already added the fix to the module, but the full implementation of this fix won't be noticed until the update of the Accordance app itself, which should be coming along soon. Thanks! Mark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBCjax Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 AWESOME!!! You Rock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Brown Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Just to note, the Accordance-side of the fix will likely not be in the up and coming 11.1, but it is high priority and shouldn't be too much longer. It relates to the tricky notion of what an 'article' entails when doing multi-field tool searches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGBCjax Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Joel, are we any closer to a fix for the multiple field search in the NIDNTTE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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