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Re: BDF (not in Accordance)


Emanuel Cardona

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Hello,

 

I am in dear need of the indexes (at least the index of references) of the printed BDF.  Is there anyone out there that can help a brother out and scan for me the indexes and send them to me via email or some other way, or even mail it to my home (send me a message for info please).  I need them for my studies; I am missing just the indexes.  I am still awaiting BDF on Accordance....  Thank you!  Blessings!

 

Emanuel

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OK, I have to ask, "What is 'BDF'?"

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OK, I have to ask, "What is 'BDF'?"

Sorry, BDF = A Greek Grammar of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature by F. Blass, A. Debrunner and Robert W. Funk.

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BDF is still pretty standard at a lot of seminaries. 

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+1!

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+1

 

Any good chance of getting this in Accordance?

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BDF is very good. I’d love to have it. Moulton-Howard-Turner would be my number one choice though,

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BDF is very good. I’d love to have it. Moulton-Howard-Turner would be my number one choice though,

I own only volume 3 of the entire 4 volumes set.  If I may ask, when doing grammatical analysis, which volume(s) do you consult the most?  And, what are your thoughts on the Grammatical Insights volume by Turner?  Thank you.

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Hi Emmanuel, I have posted this in a PM as well...

 

Hi Emanuel,

I nearly always consult Daniel Wallace’s book as a first port of call. Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics. There are three reasons for this, it is focussed on Koiné Greek, it is quite good, and I have it on Accordance, so I can look it up very quickly.

If I want to go further I first go to BDF  - because it is focussed on NT Greek and quite accessible.

But my Gold Standard is MHT, as I am more classically trained. As LSJ is my Gold Standard lexicon (though less used that BDAG).

I am sorry, but I don’t feel in a good position to comment on Turner as I have used it by far the least of the 5 volumes. It’s interesting, but not a very frequented tome (I don;t even own it, I borrow it from my local seminary library when needed). My first four volumes are well-thumbed though.

 

Sorry I can’t be of more help.

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Hi Emmanuel, I have posted this in a PM as well...

 

Hi Emanuel,

I nearly always consult Daniel Wallace’s book as a first port of call. Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics. There are three reasons for this, it is focussed on Koiné Greek, it is quite good, and I have it on Accordance, so I can look it up very quickly.

If I want to go further I first go to BDF  - because it is focussed on NT Greek and quite accessible.

But my Gold Standard is MHT, as I am more classically trained. As LSJ is my Gold Standard lexicon (though less used that BDAG).

I am sorry, but I don’t feel in a good position to comment on Turner as I have used it by far the least of the 5 volumes. It’s interesting, but not a very frequented tome (I don;t even own it, I borrow it from my local seminary library when needed). My first four volumes are well-thumbed though.

 

Sorry I can’t be of more help.

Thank you!
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Emanuel, do you still need the scripture index? I will scan and send it to you if you still need it (but it will be next week before I get to it).

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Emanuel, do you still need the scripture index? I will scan and send it to you if you still need it (but it will be next week before I get to it).

I posted my response in a PM, thank you.

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I've been wanting BDF in Accordance since I switched to Accordance in 2011. Apparently there is no etext to license and properly proofing and tagging a dense grammar like BDF from scanned images requires inordinate man hours. I think it would be profitable since it's such a standard work and most would buy it without hesitation, and I hope it will be prepared eventually, but I stopped holding my breath. My trusty hard copy (when I'm in my office) is still indispensable.

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I've been wanting BDF in Accordance since I switched to Accordance in 2011. Apparently there is no etext to license and properly proofing and tagging a dense grammar like BDF from scanned images requires inordinate man hours. I think it would be profitable since it's such a standard work and most would buy it without hesitation, and I hope it will be prepared eventually, but I stopped holding my breath. My trusty hard copy (when I'm in my office) is still indispensable.

 

Amen Jonathan

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FYI: This work is under copyright, and we do not endorse distributing it. 

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Good to know. I own the hard copy I assumed it was public domain at this point.

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We're still working on options for creating / obtaining an e-text. Hope is not lost, but no major advances either. I'm confident we'll eventually get it worked out.

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If released before Christmas, BDF in Accordance will be in my stocking for sure!

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