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#1 Michel Gilbert

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 01:57 PM

Hi,

 

I just came into possession of a 2006 MacBook, Dual Core, 1.83 GHz, and I'm thinking about upgrading it to Snow Leopard with 2GB RAM to explore the possibility of migrating to the Mac OS over the next few years.

 

Before I embark on such an enterprise, any comments and suggestions would be most welcome, especially about how well Accordance runs on an older Mac.

 

Thanks.

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:01 PM

I think you'll be surprised how well Accordance runs on it!


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:16 PM

Hi,

 

Just based on that answer, I'll start the adventure. It's a busy time on the homestead tilling, gardening, landscaping, and repairing buildings, so it will take me a while before I upgrade. But I may find time tomorrow when it's raining to order Snow Leopard and the RAM.

 

One of the things I like to do on my breaks is glance at this Forum. Thanks Dr. J and everyone else for making it such an enjoyable experience.

 

Well, back to digging new garden beds and drainage ditches.

 

Regards,

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:20 PM

Accordance is one of the most well written programs I have found. You can use it on a very old mac and find it works faster than you could think possible. Till a couple years back they were still supporting macs that were using classic OS... Until it died last fall I was running Accordance 9 on a iMAC G5 and it worked, perfectly. Indeed Accordance so strongly  values all their customers that 9.6.6 which was suppose to be the last version got a minor update to correct a bug. Now there will obviously be new features that one will not find support for in this older version. But this shows you the level of commitment you find in Accordance. It is extremely well programer and will give you great results even on older machines.

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:21 PM

I've never run Accordance on anything but a Mac, and have owned an Accordance license since 2003.  Runs really well.


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:08 PM

Michel, if you have an Apple store close by or maybe contact them online and see if  replacing the hard drive with a flash drive would help too. 


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 08:02 AM

I would be cautious putting too much money into that MacBook. They are notorious for bad batteries, and sometimes overheating. You can buy a few year old MacBook Air for a decent price and it will run the latest OS, much better battery, flash drive, etc. 

 

That said, it will run Accordance just fine on 10.6.8 and 2GB RAM.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 09:12 AM

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks for the input. I appreciate all the comments.

 

I've been thinking for a while about switching to Mac. When I got this MacBook for free, I checked the minimum system requirements for running Accordance, BW, Logos, Scrivener, Libre Office (4.3), PDF Studio, etc., and they all run on OS X 10.6. Snow Leopard is $22.99 and 2 GB RAM is $29.74 at Amazon. That's all the money I would put into it.

 

I expect that all the programs except Logos (not enough RAM) would run quickly and smoothly, so I will be able to try a Mac before buying. I assume that the Mac experience in Snow Leopard is not that much different than the newer versions. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 09:28 AM

I think you'll be very happy, Michael. That's incredibly cheap for any kind of computer, especially a Mac.


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Posted 02 June 2015 - 02:27 PM

I'm tired of hardware failure. I'm using different Windows versions, and I'm contemplating which kind of HDD or SSHD to order to my second oldest laptop. There is an expensive HDD 250 GB which would ship new which can take a bit of vibrations, pretty extreme temperatures even under operation and high altitudes, and it tries to keep the distance between the read or write head and the disk constant, also it spins a little slower than standard disks, little over 4k rpm - which helps save battery a little although I think it does consume some electricity because of all the technology, and it would be slower than the disk which is in the computer now (a 2013 hybrid disk 5,400 rpm S-ATA II, with 8 GB NAND Flash part). Or an SSD. I would expect the expensive HDD to last longer even though an AMD SSD doesn't seem bad at all - it's just that SSD:s just stop functioning when there's an error while HDD:s and hybrid drives can be repaired to a small extent. And if I would buy an SSD I would prefer an S-ATA II disk. As I always mirror old content to new disk, the frequency of how often to replace the disk before there are any errors on it, may decide what I will do.
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With 250 GB (an SSD or the expensive HDD) there's not too much wiggle room regarding storage space. Bigger disks would seem unrealistically expensive. I'm not sure if this matters much as I rarely add more installations. The computer uses at least about 130 GB of the disk right now and I'm probably installing about 25 GB more on it, and documents and pictures use up only a little space. SSD:s wear out faster if they are more than half-full than if only a third is in use.


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The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:53 PM

A Mac which would run both Accordance and Verbum 6 well, would be: http://www.blocket.s...5.htm?ca=11&w=2 rather old ad from April 19.
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Two chargers included.
Price: $409

EDIT: Or a Mac just like the above but not with two chargers and with 4 GB RAM instead of 8 GB and 256 GB SSD instead of 128 GB: http://www.blocket.s...76433.htm?ca=11

$292. The ad is so old it will disappear in a couple of days.

A Mac such as in the OP, and that would barely run Logos 4 or maybe Verbum 5: http://www.blocket.s...0.htm?ca=11&w=2 rather old ad from April 16.
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Bad battery, lasts five minutes. Can new batteries still be bought?
Price $109.

Which Mac do You think is a better purchase? Or to upgrade my Windows machines with for example SSD:s and/or more RAM (I have several Windows machines)? (But my second oldest laptop has max RAM 8 GB.)


Edited by Unix, 02 June 2015 - 04:00 PM.

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My new group welcomes contributions and constructive criticism of and listing of commentaries, please ask to join, no control questions, erudite yet concise is the name of the group - expect users from on here to have academic knowledge and scholars to feel at home. Novices can learn from experts on library-building. Let it grow!: https://www.facebook...4594/?ref=br_rs

The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374

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Posted 02 June 2015 - 03:57 PM

Michel, let us know how it goes. There are some who say that Snow Leopard was the last great operating system for Mac.
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Posted 02 June 2015 - 04:23 PM

I plan to. I'm trying to figure out the best OS, apps, and workflow combination to begin writing.

 

If I switch to OS X, I'll use many of the same programs as I do in Windows. My concerns with Windows are of a more philosophical nature. But if I find something interesting along the way, I'll post it.



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Posted 02 June 2015 - 05:57 PM

OS X 10.6 will be fine to run Accordance and likely will be ok for your other APPS mentioned. I am not aware of the max OS that your machine can use.... (10.6.8 is maximum for an early 2006 book if it was the model that was released November 2006, 10.7.5 is an option, the best thing about 10.6 is it still allowed you to use PPC based Apps, where as the Lion advantage is that it allowed you to use the Mac APP store)

 

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​PS: If LOGOS interests you although you will not get use on this free computer Logos 5 is the highest you can do as 6.0 requires 10.9 or above.

 

PPS: Logos is not going to function well for you, because even on a top of the line machine Logos feels sluggish on load up and somethings. It's the nature of the Logos program.


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 02:27 AM

I was very happy on snow leopared and only upgraded to mountain lion just before the last os upgrade as i wanted to have an os in case i bought a daw and knew it wouldnt run on the older system. I havent upgraded as my cs4 will stop working and i dont want to upgrade that.

You will be fine, and if you want to run windows in parallel or some other system, you will be amazed at how fast it runs!

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Posted 03 June 2015 - 05:32 AM

I know the newest version wants lots of RAM, advanced users will want 16 GB. Earlier versions 4-5 may perhaps run with 4 GB, maybe not simultaneously with Accordance or what do You think? Logos always uses lots of RAM during indexing but also continuously. The newest Macs I mentioned in my previous post were from mid-2010, the CPU is perhaps not new enough to run Logos or Verbum well (not even version 5?)? My oldest laptop has Windows 7, Core 2 Duo and an SSD and runs Logos 5 and Verbum 5 almost well enough to be used properly, with 4 GB RAM - that computer is from 2009. The Mac version needs much more RAM, especially the newest version:

PPS: Logos is not going to function well for you, because even on a top of the line machine Logos feels sluggish on load up and somethings. It's the nature of the Logos program.


All info current - all edited - everywhere as of May 17. '20 and now I'm not going to post during May 17. '20 - until 1st half of Nov. | May 28. 2019: I had mentioned currencies in one comment here on the podcasts forum, my off-site elaboration of that is: https://www.christia...2#post-72312055 March. 4. 2019 and May 16. 2020 and this ongoing and next Decade: Not room for constantly carrying any sort of additional device more than at most a card payment terminal (carrying of that terminal only to happen on my free time, for those wishing to invest in me midst a society that has growing lack of concern for how people just like me ought to survive financially) without hole-damage to bag or by the whichever purchased content and indexcards I need to carry. Just own square meters, as well as future job: Office preferred; all free time tasks physically/geographically and time-slot wise separated from future paid job tasks. FB (always scroll down enough and remember my actual positions are by now stated with precision); but civil status is what it must be set as even though I'm not unattended to with regards to research attention and collaboration in everything most recently stated as my focuses here on Accordance forums: https://www.facebook...100009160762403 ...the first thing now is freely add me there!!, be also active on my wall! If You ever actually seriously and not needing to explicitly meet eye to eye yet many multiple more times, wish to confirm Your interest or tell me to call back, do so by sending a brief enough SMS who You are, thank You (the latter is they key for how You with foresight confirm to me that You are mine)! And view my brief Insta!
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The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374

#17 Julia Falling

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Posted 03 June 2015 - 09:55 AM

I do see a difference in speed between my Mac mini and my MacBook Air.  However, I have no problems running Accordance on either, even with many programs open at the same time (almost always 10+).  Neither of my machines are 'pro' models.  I have no issues with audio or video editing, though that is something I do infrequently.

 

We've owned Apple machines since 1983, buying our first new one in '85.  It's in the basement and it still boots and runs (Lode Runner, anyone?).  We've yet to have a Apple/Mac fail.  We did have a hard drive on a used PowerBook quit, but the rest of the machine was fine.  I remember that we thought the 20G drive, replacing a 4G, was huge.  These days, that hardly seems adequate for a thumb drive!


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 10:59 AM

Lode Runner!

 

But to keep this on topic, Snow Leopard (10.6) was a fantastic OS, and it will run Accordance flawlessly.  Only reason I upgraded was being forced to with a computer purchase.


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Posted 06 June 2015 - 01:09 PM

Best current Macbook offer over here, is: http://www.blocket.s...2.htm?ca=11&w=1
Model: A1342

13.3"
Disk: 128 GB SSD
CPU: Core 2 Duo 2.26 GHz 

RAM: 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB
OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
Bag and charger included.

$312. The ad is from late yesterday evening (midnight, so it probably came up this morning since ads don't come up automatically on the site).

 

For comparison I just bought this Windows laptop yesterday, $245, I could probably get my money back and an extra $12 by selling it soon:
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Dell Latitude E5430 mid-2012, all original. It shipped to original buyer or store on Dec. 30. 2012.
14" 1366*768 pixels.
Background lit keyboard, four brightness steps.
Disk: 500 GB HDD
Pretty good CPU: 
Core i3 3rd gen. 3110M 2.4 GHz 3 MB L3 cache http://www.cpubenchm... 2.40GHz&id=763 and http://processors.sp.../Intel-i3-3110M
RAM: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Windows 7 Pro newly installed, with license under battery; Office 2007 licensed installed.
Battery: 87 WH 7800 mAh extra large
Seller said battery lasts 4-5 hours with keyboard back-lit and Wifi on, or 7-8 hours if doing nothing and having no softwares open, both these values with "Balanced"-power saving options: 5% minimum CPU throttle and 100% maximum CPU which is what he's used all the time.

 

Which one do You think is better?


All info current - all edited - everywhere as of May 17. '20 and now I'm not going to post during May 17. '20 - until 1st half of Nov. | May 28. 2019: I had mentioned currencies in one comment here on the podcasts forum, my off-site elaboration of that is: https://www.christia...2#post-72312055 March. 4. 2019 and May 16. 2020 and this ongoing and next Decade: Not room for constantly carrying any sort of additional device more than at most a card payment terminal (carrying of that terminal only to happen on my free time, for those wishing to invest in me midst a society that has growing lack of concern for how people just like me ought to survive financially) without hole-damage to bag or by the whichever purchased content and indexcards I need to carry. Just own square meters, as well as future job: Office preferred; all free time tasks physically/geographically and time-slot wise separated from future paid job tasks. FB (always scroll down enough and remember my actual positions are by now stated with precision); but civil status is what it must be set as even though I'm not unattended to with regards to research attention and collaboration in everything most recently stated as my focuses here on Accordance forums: https://www.facebook...100009160762403 ...the first thing now is freely add me there!!, be also active on my wall! If You ever actually seriously and not needing to explicitly meet eye to eye yet many multiple more times, wish to confirm Your interest or tell me to call back, do so by sending a brief enough SMS who You are, thank You (the latter is they key for how You with foresight confirm to me that You are mine)! And view my brief Insta!
My new group welcomes contributions and constructive criticism of and listing of commentaries, please ask to join, no control questions, erudite yet concise is the name of the group - expect users from on here to have academic knowledge and scholars to feel at home. Novices can learn from experts on library-building. Let it grow!: https://www.facebook...4594/?ref=br_rs

The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374

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  • Interests:The one existing installation (any devices/platforms) is 11.2.5 on an AMD A9 Dual Core laptop in a young scholar's hands, the software is in a balanced way using the speed that laptop can give it; and this config loads my books, uses slightly less battery than 12 would (which I do own the Basic Starter of under my account). 11 had a great Info Pane, partial download of Collections had already become possible, all settings that are needed for text preferences, both custom and assistive library sorting, Research, efficient and within the UI scalable use of the whichever monitor area You dedicate to it. I've got several extra Accordance 12.3.7 software licenses to gift - still have Nov. 14.-23. '19 - Jan. 1. - May 16. '20 and most likely for a good while still, multiple copies left beyond July '20 (just feel free to PM me if You want me to give one to get You up and running)! Developer team responsively and within what there is demand for adds new core functionality, turning into reality specialised type of modules, f.e. the recent Targums Wordmap. I'm skipping version 13 (for any others it will be of excellent though) and going straight to 14 whenever in 2022 it is released, and I want it to have any major expansion in History of Ideas or other Sciences at some of its point upgrades, at latest in 2024 in time for my authoring project, preferrably by introducing the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica to offline use
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Posted 09 June 2015 - 07:25 AM

If both would be equipped with SSD:s, would the Macbook consume as little or less battery? Are batteries to the Macbook cheap and are replacement ones manufactured by third parties for many years? (And there's also another Mac for sale, the ad doesn't say anything since the seller doesn't know how old it is, the software has been rinsed and the computer costs $179: http://www.blocket.s...7.htm?ca=11&w=1) The past Thursday I talked with a classmate about Macs - they use less RAM and therefore if a Macbook has an SSD the SSD is in idle mode a lot of the time and therefore consumes rather little battery (a low budget new 256 GB SSD consumes 0.8 W in idle mode). But Macs may consume more CPU due to how the software system is constructed, than Windows 7 and 8.1 -machines. Backup and such works much much better on Mac - I suspected that since before. Are there enough benefits with a Mac to justify selling the Windows 7 laptop and perhaps some other of my Windows machines or lending one to someone, to buy a Macbook of this price-level used?:

Which one do You think is better?


All info current - all edited - everywhere as of May 17. '20 and now I'm not going to post during May 17. '20 - until 1st half of Nov. | May 28. 2019: I had mentioned currencies in one comment here on the podcasts forum, my off-site elaboration of that is: https://www.christia...2#post-72312055 March. 4. 2019 and May 16. 2020 and this ongoing and next Decade: Not room for constantly carrying any sort of additional device more than at most a card payment terminal (carrying of that terminal only to happen on my free time, for those wishing to invest in me midst a society that has growing lack of concern for how people just like me ought to survive financially) without hole-damage to bag or by the whichever purchased content and indexcards I need to carry. Just own square meters, as well as future job: Office preferred; all free time tasks physically/geographically and time-slot wise separated from future paid job tasks. FB (always scroll down enough and remember my actual positions are by now stated with precision); but civil status is what it must be set as even though I'm not unattended to with regards to research attention and collaboration in everything most recently stated as my focuses here on Accordance forums: https://www.facebook...100009160762403 ...the first thing now is freely add me there!!, be also active on my wall! If You ever actually seriously and not needing to explicitly meet eye to eye yet many multiple more times, wish to confirm Your interest or tell me to call back, do so by sending a brief enough SMS who You are, thank You (the latter is they key for how You with foresight confirm to me that You are mine)! And view my brief Insta!
My new group welcomes contributions and constructive criticism of and listing of commentaries, please ask to join, no control questions, erudite yet concise is the name of the group - expect users from on here to have academic knowledge and scholars to feel at home. Novices can learn from experts on library-building. Let it grow!: https://www.facebook...4594/?ref=br_rs

The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374




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