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#21 Timothy Jenney

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 07:34 AM

Apple's computers have a reputation for running much longer and better than most of those in the Window's world. Their hardware is simply superior to most of what is out there. Their software programs are excellent, if not always equal to the MS Office Suite or Adobe's products; they certainly use less CPU than either of them. The browser, Safari, is so far ahead of Explorer I just shudder every time I think of what PC users put up with every day. Finally, there are far fewer viruses, Trojan horses, worms, and other malware in the Mac world. 

 

Yes, using an SSD would save on battery life, as would adding more RAM, and dimming the display. Adding an SSD also cuts down on the heat dramatically, which saves wear and tear on the whole computer. I wouldn't worry about battery life though, I own a laptop and find I rarely work without plugging it in. I just like the portability.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:02 AM

Hi Unix,

 

I have the same question - are there enough benefits to justify switching to Mac? I've read a lot of forums about OS X vs Windows and the hardware they run on. This is my current opinion, with no offense intended to any of my brothers or sisters on this forum.

 

Dr. J. is correct that "Mac hardware is simply superior to most of what is out there." It is correct because most PC hardware is low end. But if you compare the same or similar Intel chip, RAM, ssd, etc., they are in fact the same or similar. I got my MacBook from my daughter. She bought it in 2007, the same year I bought a Dell Vostro 200 desktop. As Rick pointed out, that model MacBook had problems, and we replaced the hard drive a week after the warranty expired, and later the battery. I never had a problem with my Vostro or its Windows Vista Business Edition, and everything is still original (granted, it is a desktop). But I also read that the subsequent MacBooks were excellent. But not, in my opinion, better than my Toshiba Satellite Laptop, which lasted 10 years until the fan died. It was also all original (granted, I had XP Pro - Windows Pro editions were much better than Home ones).

 

I also agree with Dr. J. that Apple software is excellent, at least what I've used in the iPad and what I've read about, except MS Word for Mac that had problems with Hebrew. MS Office 2007, which I've owned and used since 2007, is excellent, and has no problems with Hebrew (I did the camera ready copy for my book with it, with lots of Hebrew). I also agree with Dr. J.'s comments about IE - that's why no one uses it! The vast majority of Windows users use Chrome or Firefox. Regarding viruses, etc., we all buy antivirus programs. I've never had a virus do damage that I know of - those programs did their job. If you're not a student or staff member somewhere, you pay about $29/year for it.

 

From what I've gathered, and what I hope to discover in my adventure is that the overall OS X experience outweighs the Windows one. I'm especially tired of the constant updates and the time they take. And, in my case it comes down to software - Scrivener still has more features in OS X than Windows, and I want to use Sente 6 with it, which is only available in OS X. I also want to experience the Mac version of Accordance and see how it integrates with the iPad.

 

I hope to comment on the overall OS X experience in the coming months, almost exclusively in relation to Accordance and productivity (Scrivener, Sente 6, and whatever else I find).

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:22 AM

The only comment I'd make here apart from echoing the comment on browsers, a thing MS is well aware of given the demise of IE in 10, is that you get what you pay for. The problem with non-Mac is that if you try to go cheap, because you can, is that you do get cheaper no-name hardware which can be flaky. If you spend more and get well known brands you can get more for your money than from Apple - and I admit this particular point is contentious but it's a fairly widely held view. The big thing with Apple I think, and certainly these days, is the ecosystem. Having one Apple device alone, you miss out on a number of the benefits that Apple software provides. MS will have a great deal of trouble doing something similar because of the software diversity and people who prefer multiple device types will just have to putter along muttering about open standards :)

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:55 AM

Hi Daniel,

 

For Unix to make an informed decision, he might also consider that his Win 7 Pro can be upgraded to Win 10 Pro for free on July 29 or shortly afterward, which attempts to integrate devices on one platform. I can tell Unix that I tried Win 10 beta on my Vostro, and it ran much quicker, and the concensus is that Win 10 will bring new life to older computers, and the possibility to install an ssd when older OSs wouldn't allow it.

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:06 AM

That is interesting to hear Michel. I have an old PC that we switched over to Linux at least in part because current Windows versions were too burdensome. Doubt I'd switch it back though.

My understanding on the integration stuff is that it has a way to go but I'll see when it comes out.

 

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"Du stammst vom Herrn Adam und der Herrin Eva ab", sagte Aslan. "Und das ist zugleich Ehre genug, um das Häupt des ärmsten Bettlers zu erheben, und genug, um die Schultern des größten Kaisers auf Erden zu beugen. Sei zufrieden." Aslan, Die Chroniken von Narnia, Prinz Kaspian von Narnia. CS Lewis. Übersetzt von Wolfgang Holbein und Christian Rendel.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:22 AM

I've solved part of that with my manual "load-balancing" of hardware - i.e. I have multiple computers and thus the wear on each evens out. I just need to fine-tune the timer on each computer that puts them in hibernation mode since that's perhaps what causes most of the wear at least on the laptops. This is not optimal, I have spent a bit more on hardware and OS:s this way and could have got a little faster computer, but the benefit is that the total number of web browser tabs I can have open is at least 600, which I doubt is possible with a single computer which would be in use. And this is without having all of them in constant we-browser use:

you get what you pay for. The problem with non-Mac is that if you try to go cheap, because you can, is that you do get cheaper no-name hardware which can be flaky.

 

 

 

Yeah I know that date is near, but I haven't given that a lot of thought really, since there's a benefit with Win 7 Pro: being able to run Libronix/Logos 3 which usually performs much faster and doesn't require multiple cores or indexing like subsequent versions of the brand. It also doesn't download things automatically. And the i3 laptop is not very old. Plus I'm not interested in boot-speed, are there any other speed improvements? Has .NET/WPF been improved performance wise in Win 10? I haven't had the time to look into this:

 


For Unix to make an informed decision, he might also consider that his Win 7 Pro can be upgraded to Win 10 Pro for free on July 29 or shortly afterward, which attempts to integrate devices on one platform. I can tell Unix that I tried Win 10 beta on my Vostro, and it ran much quicker, and the concensus is that Win 10 will bring new life to older computers, and the possibility to install an ssd when older OSs wouldn't allow it.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:25 AM

The moment you get Acc 11 to run on Linux, please tell us how you did it, step by step. My dream OSs would be OS X and a Linux VM.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:37 AM

Accordance will run on a Unix computer, it just needs a Mac shell around it! ;-)


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 01:28 PM

+1 as a feature request in Linux :rolleyes:


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 01:57 PM

Accordance will run on a Unix computer, it just needs a Mac shell around it! ;-)

 

Very true and some have had success with WINE... 10.4.2 is the last version that ran on it I think, but from following things on the form 11 may work in future editions of WINE since the problem appears to be a known WINE issue.

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 02:02 PM

by "Accordance will run on a Unix computer, it just needs a Mac shell around it! ;-)" he means... a Mac.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:01 PM

[Chuckle] Jeremy, you outed me!

 

Yes, indeed, modern Macs are nothing more than Unix machines with a Mac shell.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:29 PM

[Chuckle] Jeremy, you outed me!

 

Yes, indeed, modern Macs are nothing more than Unix machines with a Mac shell.

And a proprietary GUI ... that’s probably the biggest sticking point. Darwin is open-source, but the UI makes it more difficult to bring things to Mac.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:29 PM

That's why I had the smiley face; I was just playing along.  :rolleyes:



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Posted 10 June 2015 - 07:45 AM

I would have to wonder for how long Win 7 is going to be updated? Also, I just remembered that the good Win 7 laptop I bought last Week has MS Office 2007 - which is faster than the 2013 version. My dad has some left over licenses for the 2013 version since he got five licenses with the purchase of one, which he could put on my computer if I would upgrade to Win 10. (But maybe he could soon find use for some of them, as I think there's some WIn 7 computers in the family - I'll ask him today if my youngest brother's one has Win 7.)
Can 7 Home Premium be upgraded to 10? My second oldest laptop (in the order of aquiring them, and it's also the second slowest) has Win 7 HP and I've been thinking whether what I have on it really is worth keeping at all costs - and have also been thinking of lending away it to a girl I know from the Catholic college since her computer often suddenly turns off:

For Unix to make an informed decision, he might also consider that his Win 7 Pro can be upgraded to Win 10 Pro for free on July 29 or shortly afterward,


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All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
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Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:20 AM

Hi Unix,

 

Here are a couple of MS links that will help you with the support question I hope.

 

http://windows.micro...ndows/lifecycle

https://support.micr...2#gp/lifePolicy

 

It looks like for Win 7 we are already into extended support which will go until 2020.

If there is any regional variation applicable you would have to dig further or ask MS.

 

As to upgrading I cannot find any specific restriction on the home editions. The main thing is that you need to be on SP1 to do the auto update route. But you need to be on SP1 anyway for the extended support updates.

 

HTH

 

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Sola lingua bona est lingua mortua
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"Du stammst vom Herrn Adam und der Herrin Eva ab", sagte Aslan. "Und das ist zugleich Ehre genug, um das Häupt des ärmsten Bettlers zu erheben, und genug, um die Schultern des größten Kaisers auf Erden zu beugen. Sei zufrieden." Aslan, Die Chroniken von Narnia, Prinz Kaspian von Narnia. CS Lewis. Übersetzt von Wolfgang Holbein und Christian Rendel.

Accordance Syntax Search For Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics : https://github.com/4...WallaceInSyntax

Accordance Crib Sheets: http://47rooks.com/l...ch-crib-sheets/


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12GB RAM

Windows : MSI GE72 7RE Apache Pro laptop
Intel Core Duo Intel i7 Kabylake

Android : Samsung Note III 5.0, Samsung Tab S3 7.0 and Lenovo TAB4 8" 7.1

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:50 AM

It seems to be easy to still get hold of all the previous Windows versions and sometimes not that expensive, at least in Home Premium Editions. But does the information mean Vista can no longer be installed from scratch (not that I have much need to do that but if I find my installation DVD I might install on one old desktop computer)?:

If there is any regional variation applicable you would have to dig further or ask MS.


All info current - all edited - everywhere as of May 17. '20 and now I'm not going to post during May 17. '20 - until 1st half of Nov. | May 28. 2019: I had mentioned currencies in one comment here on the podcasts forum, my off-site elaboration of that is: https://www.christia...2#post-72312055 March. 4. 2019 and May 16. 2020 and this ongoing and next Decade: Not room for constantly carrying any sort of additional device more than at most a card payment terminal (carrying of that terminal only to happen on my free time, for those wishing to invest in me midst a society that has growing lack of concern for how people just like me ought to survive financially) without hole-damage to bag or by the whichever purchased content and indexcards I need to carry. Just own square meters, as well as future job: Office preferred; all free time tasks physically/geographically and time-slot wise separated from future paid job tasks. FB (always scroll down enough and remember my actual positions are by now stated with precision); but civil status is what it must be set as even though I'm not unattended to with regards to research attention and collaboration in everything most recently stated as my focuses here on Accordance forums: https://www.facebook...100009160762403 ...the first thing now is freely add me there!!, be also active on my wall! If You ever actually seriously and not needing to explicitly meet eye to eye yet many multiple more times, wish to confirm Your interest or tell me to call back, do so by sending a brief enough SMS who You are, thank You (the latter is they key for how You with foresight confirm to me that You are mine)! And view my brief Insta!
My new group welcomes contributions and constructive criticism of and listing of commentaries, please ask to join, no control questions, erudite yet concise is the name of the group - expect users from on here to have academic knowledge and scholars to feel at home. Novices can learn from experts on library-building. Let it grow!: https://www.facebook...4594/?ref=br_rs

The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 09:00 AM

I don't know if you can get it or not. I've never used Vista. Of course if you have the CD you could certainly install it if the hardware will take it. But I wouldn't think there would be much cause to go further back than 7. Right now I would do 7 installs or 10 beta (if they are stable enough - I've not tried) because personally I dislike 8 but that's me - 8 would hold you for a month or two easy. Then in a month and a half 10 is available if the date holds.

 

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Sola lingua bona est lingua mortua
ἡ μόνη ἀγαθὴ γλῶσσα γλῶσσα νεκρὰ ἐστιν
lišanu ēdēnitu damqitu lišanu mītu

"Du stammst vom Herrn Adam und der Herrin Eva ab", sagte Aslan. "Und das ist zugleich Ehre genug, um das Häupt des ärmsten Bettlers zu erheben, und genug, um die Schultern des größten Kaisers auf Erden zu beugen. Sei zufrieden." Aslan, Die Chroniken von Narnia, Prinz Kaspian von Narnia. CS Lewis. Übersetzt von Wolfgang Holbein und Christian Rendel.

Accordance Syntax Search For Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics : https://github.com/4...WallaceInSyntax

Accordance Crib Sheets: http://47rooks.com/l...ch-crib-sheets/


Accordance Configurations :

Mac : 2009 27" iMac
12GB RAM

Windows : MSI GE72 7RE Apache Pro laptop
Intel Core Duo Intel i7 Kabylake

Android : Samsung Note III 5.0, Samsung Tab S3 7.0 and Lenovo TAB4 8" 7.1

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 09:20 AM

I have all computers installed (except the oldest one which is a desktop which I mentioned in my previous post), but would perhaps want to install a Virtual Machine on one computer - it could be 7 or then 10 - that laptop is a bit old but quad-core and I really doubt I'll upgrade it to 10 but I could look how much I have on it that I'd like to keep - I've installed it only Months ago and it has Win 8.1. Then I also have one desktop computer (old quad-core) which has a bit bad disk, I don't know whether it's better to mirror the old disk or install from scratch, it used to have Windows 8.1 student license but it expired.
I checked with my dad, he doesn't have many left over Office licenses, if we activate Office 2013 on one of my computers (a fast desktop) there are no left over ones as he will probably buy mum a second computer (a desktop, in addition to her laptop). EDIT: I'm checking with dad if I could give mum my oldest laptop (2009 4 GB W7 Core 2 Duo 1.3 GHz small and mistreated SSD which would need to be mirrored to a 120 or 128 GB SSD, small computer, has to be used with external keyboard since the internal one doesn't function but all she needs is portability) - the requirement would be if she would be able to convert her current laptop to a desktop computer, I asked dad to check if it has a VGA-connector. I have a left-over VGA monitor 1366*768 pixels which would suit that purpose perfectly.
I should upgrade my best friend's desktop computer to Win 10 - will probably not afford to give her MS Office but I could look a little bit for used DVD:s with ownership license.
(And btw my dad's Office license is a rental one, not ownership):

Right now I would do 7 installs or 10 beta (if they are stable enough - I've not tried) because personally I dislike 8 but that's me - 8 would hold you for a month or two easy. Then in a month and a half 10 is available if the date holds.


Edited by Unix, 10 June 2015 - 10:04 AM.

All info current - all edited - everywhere as of May 17. '20 and now I'm not going to post during May 17. '20 - until 1st half of Nov. | May 28. 2019: I had mentioned currencies in one comment here on the podcasts forum, my off-site elaboration of that is: https://www.christia...2#post-72312055 March. 4. 2019 and May 16. 2020 and this ongoing and next Decade: Not room for constantly carrying any sort of additional device more than at most a card payment terminal (carrying of that terminal only to happen on my free time, for those wishing to invest in me midst a society that has growing lack of concern for how people just like me ought to survive financially) without hole-damage to bag or by the whichever purchased content and indexcards I need to carry. Just own square meters, as well as future job: Office preferred; all free time tasks physically/geographically and time-slot wise separated from future paid job tasks. FB (always scroll down enough and remember my actual positions are by now stated with precision); but civil status is what it must be set as even though I'm not unattended to with regards to research attention and collaboration in everything most recently stated as my focuses here on Accordance forums: https://www.facebook...100009160762403 ...the first thing now is freely add me there!!, be also active on my wall! If You ever actually seriously and not needing to explicitly meet eye to eye yet many multiple more times, wish to confirm Your interest or tell me to call back, do so by sending a brief enough SMS who You are, thank You (the latter is they key for how You with foresight confirm to me that You are mine)! And view my brief Insta!
My new group welcomes contributions and constructive criticism of and listing of commentaries, please ask to join, no control questions, erudite yet concise is the name of the group - expect users from on here to have academic knowledge and scholars to feel at home. Novices can learn from experts on library-building. Let it grow!: https://www.facebook...4594/?ref=br_rs

The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374

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  • Interests:The one existing installation (any devices/platforms) is 11.2.5 on an AMD A9 Dual Core laptop in a young scholar's hands, the software is in a balanced way using the speed that laptop can give it; and this config loads my books, uses slightly less battery than 12 would (which I do own the Basic Starter of under my account). 11 had a great Info Pane, partial download of Collections had already become possible, all settings that are needed for text preferences, both custom and assistive library sorting, Research, efficient and within the UI scalable use of the whichever monitor area You dedicate to it. I've got several extra Accordance 12.3.7 software licenses to gift - still have Nov. 14.-23. '19 - Jan. 1. - May 16. '20 and most likely for a good while still, multiple copies left beyond July '20 (just feel free to PM me if You want me to give one to get You up and running)! Developer team responsively and within what there is demand for adds new core functionality, turning into reality specialised type of modules, f.e. the recent Targums Wordmap. I'm skipping version 13 (for any others it will be of excellent though) and going straight to 14 whenever in 2022 it is released, and I want it to have any major expansion in History of Ideas or other Sciences at some of its point upgrades, at latest in 2024 in time for my authoring project, preferrably by introducing the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica to offline use
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Posted 10 June 2015 - 12:19 PM

Dad replied that mums laptop doesn't have a proper VGA-connector, but I suggested him he sells mums laptop, I'll wait and see what he answers to that - if he would do that I could give mum my oldest laptop. I really need to plan like this to get rid of some computers and put them to better use - and it would work if I have a possibility to some day get back the computer, it would be perfect for me to give it to mum:

I checked with my dad, he doesn't have many left over Office licenses, if we activate Office 2013 on one of my computers (a fast desktop) there are no left over ones as he will probably buy mum a second computer (a desktop, in addition to her laptop). EDIT: I'm checking with dad if I could give mum my oldest laptop (2009 4 GB W7 Core 2 Duo 1.3 GHz small and mistreated SSD which would need to be mirrored to a 120 or 128 GB SSD, small computer, has to be used with external keyboard since the internal one doesn't function but all she needs is portability) - the requirement would be if she would be able to convert her current laptop to a desktop computer, I asked dad to check if it has a VGA-connector. I have a left-over VGA monitor 1366*768 pixels which would suit that purpose perfectly.


All info current - all edited - everywhere as of May 17. '20 and now I'm not going to post during May 17. '20 - until 1st half of Nov. | May 28. 2019: I had mentioned currencies in one comment here on the podcasts forum, my off-site elaboration of that is: https://www.christia...2#post-72312055 March. 4. 2019 and May 16. 2020 and this ongoing and next Decade: Not room for constantly carrying any sort of additional device more than at most a card payment terminal (carrying of that terminal only to happen on my free time, for those wishing to invest in me midst a society that has growing lack of concern for how people just like me ought to survive financially) without hole-damage to bag or by the whichever purchased content and indexcards I need to carry. Just own square meters, as well as future job: Office preferred; all free time tasks physically/geographically and time-slot wise separated from future paid job tasks. FB (always scroll down enough and remember my actual positions are by now stated with precision); but civil status is what it must be set as even though I'm not unattended to with regards to research attention and collaboration in everything most recently stated as my focuses here on Accordance forums: https://www.facebook...100009160762403 ...the first thing now is freely add me there!!, be also active on my wall! If You ever actually seriously and not needing to explicitly meet eye to eye yet many multiple more times, wish to confirm Your interest or tell me to call back, do so by sending a brief enough SMS who You are, thank You (the latter is they key for how You with foresight confirm to me that You are mine)! And view my brief Insta!
My new group welcomes contributions and constructive criticism of and listing of commentaries, please ask to join, no control questions, erudite yet concise is the name of the group - expect users from on here to have academic knowledge and scholars to feel at home. Novices can learn from experts on library-building. Let it grow!: https://www.facebook...4594/?ref=br_rs

The hardware I'm; for research and blessing it for total respect for women; rigging up now in June 2020 is a Dodeca Core '17Q1 Broadwell-E (there wasn't an option of this vintage and availability as used within Northern Europe to go AMD CPU - but for You I do recommend AMD) SUSE Linux v.15 SP1 Enterprise Edition LTSR tower with one 2400 MHz 16 GB RAM new meaning made from same silicone unit, stick per CPU core each, _full bank_ for the one mounted processor, i.e. balanced configuration high-performance mode; ZFS filesystem two 200 GB Enterprise Edition 14mm thick SSD internal storage disks; Infiniband DDR2. 27" monitor 2560x1440 pixels that consumes 44 Watts on operation and almost nothing turned off or in standby. And someone else local within this state will pay my electricity consumption invoice by direct bank withdrawal of theirs. Electrical power ratings: CPU 105 W, GPU board 25 W, Infiniband chip 5 W, all of what is inside the tower coming from the power supply 800 Watts Platinum standard 94% conversion efficiency, but I expect the tower to consume roughly 525 Watts, + the monitor 42 W. Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries,
further along that line dismissing what else to maintain/add to and deepen. Postponing the purchase of: BNPauly series (because of not yet getting to that level).
All of the following things are MISC.: Yet more by-voice performances for Fine Culture in which I'm still going to rather occasionally be honed from private tuition usually either workday or Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy, additionally getting out to the City in the form of part of ensemble a very few Saturdays daytime. Plus regular group rehearsals.
Have got a DCH subscription in print, €75 per volume+small amount for shipping. Being an ovo-vegetarian and only buy eggs farmed ecologically from within max 175 miles from wherever I at any given time am, refuse any other source for protein even when offered food or at invitations or the like. Best long past purchases: AYBC (2014-'15), NIV11-GKE. Biggest title 2017: OTL and parts of NTL (completed later what I needed when I got ot a few Accordance and print vols). Biggest title during 2018: https://twitter.com/...874763110559744 And under 2019: NICOT/NICNT. None enormous or high volume-count content purchases in '20-'21 due to research backlog and finally getting limitless Firefox web-browsing system. I can safely be encouraged. Ours being healthy vendor lock-in: https://www.accordan...e-2#entry124374




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