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#21 Timothy Jenney

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 07:34 AM

Apple's computers have a reputation for running much longer and better than most of those in the Window's world. Their hardware is simply superior to most of what is out there. Their software programs are excellent, if not always equal to the MS Office Suite or Adobe's products; they certainly use less CPU than either of them. The browser, Safari, is so far ahead of Explorer I just shudder every time I think of what PC users put up with every day. Finally, there are far fewer viruses, Trojan horses, worms, and other malware in the Mac world. 

 

Yes, using an SSD would save on battery life, as would adding more RAM, and dimming the display. Adding an SSD also cuts down on the heat dramatically, which saves wear and tear on the whole computer. I wouldn't worry about battery life though, I own a laptop and find I rarely work without plugging it in. I just like the portability.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:02 AM

Hi Unix,

 

I have the same question - are there enough benefits to justify switching to Mac? I've read a lot of forums about OS X vs Windows and the hardware they run on. This is my current opinion, with no offense intended to any of my brothers or sisters on this forum.

 

Dr. J. is correct that "Mac hardware is simply superior to most of what is out there." It is correct because most PC hardware is low end. But if you compare the same or similar Intel chip, RAM, ssd, etc., they are in fact the same or similar. I got my MacBook from my daughter. She bought it in 2007, the same year I bought a Dell Vostro 200 desktop. As Rick pointed out, that model MacBook had problems, and we replaced the hard drive a week after the warranty expired, and later the battery. I never had a problem with my Vostro or its Windows Vista Business Edition, and everything is still original (granted, it is a desktop). But I also read that the subsequent MacBooks were excellent. But not, in my opinion, better than my Toshiba Satellite Laptop, which lasted 10 years until the fan died. It was also all original (granted, I had XP Pro - Windows Pro editions were much better than Home ones).

 

I also agree with Dr. J. that Apple software is excellent, at least what I've used in the iPad and what I've read about, except MS Word for Mac that had problems with Hebrew. MS Office 2007, which I've owned and used since 2007, is excellent, and has no problems with Hebrew (I did the camera ready copy for my book with it, with lots of Hebrew). I also agree with Dr. J.'s comments about IE - that's why no one uses it! The vast majority of Windows users use Chrome or Firefox. Regarding viruses, etc., we all buy antivirus programs. I've never had a virus do damage that I know of - those programs did their job. If you're not a student or staff member somewhere, you pay about $29/year for it.

 

From what I've gathered, and what I hope to discover in my adventure is that the overall OS X experience outweighs the Windows one. I'm especially tired of the constant updates and the time they take. And, in my case it comes down to software - Scrivener still has more features in OS X than Windows, and I want to use Sente 6 with it, which is only available in OS X. I also want to experience the Mac version of Accordance and see how it integrates with the iPad.

 

I hope to comment on the overall OS X experience in the coming months, almost exclusively in relation to Accordance and productivity (Scrivener, Sente 6, and whatever else I find).

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:22 AM

The only comment I'd make here apart from echoing the comment on browsers, a thing MS is well aware of given the demise of IE in 10, is that you get what you pay for. The problem with non-Mac is that if you try to go cheap, because you can, is that you do get cheaper no-name hardware which can be flaky. If you spend more and get well known brands you can get more for your money than from Apple - and I admit this particular point is contentious but it's a fairly widely held view. The big thing with Apple I think, and certainly these days, is the ecosystem. Having one Apple device alone, you miss out on a number of the benefits that Apple software provides. MS will have a great deal of trouble doing something similar because of the software diversity and people who prefer multiple device types will just have to putter along muttering about open standards :)

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:55 AM

Hi Daniel,

 

For Unix to make an informed decision, he might also consider that his Win 7 Pro can be upgraded to Win 10 Pro for free on July 29 or shortly afterward, which attempts to integrate devices on one platform. I can tell Unix that I tried Win 10 beta on my Vostro, and it ran much quicker, and the concensus is that Win 10 will bring new life to older computers, and the possibility to install an ssd when older OSs wouldn't allow it.

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:06 AM

That is interesting to hear Michel. I have an old PC that we switched over to Linux at least in part because current Windows versions were too burdensome. Doubt I'd switch it back though.

My understanding on the integration stuff is that it has a way to go but I'll see when it comes out.

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:22 AM

I've solved part of that with my manual "load-balancing" of hardware - i.e. I have multiple computers and thus the wear on each evens out. I just need to fine-tune the timer on each computer that puts them in hibernation mode since that's perhaps what causes most of the wear at least on the laptops. This is not optimal, I have spent a bit more on hardware and OS:s this way and could have got a little faster computer, but the benefit is that the total number of web browser tabs I can have open is at least 600, which I doubt is possible with a single computer which would be in use. And this is without having all of them in constant we-browser use:

you get what you pay for. The problem with non-Mac is that if you try to go cheap, because you can, is that you do get cheaper no-name hardware which can be flaky.

 

 

 

Yeah I know that date is near, but I haven't given that a lot of thought really, since there's a benefit with Win 7 Pro: being able to run Libronix/Logos 3 which usually performs much faster and doesn't require multiple cores or indexing like subsequent versions of the brand. It also doesn't download things automatically. And the i3 laptop is not very old. Plus I'm not interested in boot-speed, are there any other speed improvements? Has .NET/WPF been improved performance wise in Win 10? I haven't had the time to look into this:

 


For Unix to make an informed decision, he might also consider that his Win 7 Pro can be upgraded to Win 10 Pro for free on July 29 or shortly afterward, which attempts to integrate devices on one platform. I can tell Unix that I tried Win 10 beta on my Vostro, and it ran much quicker, and the concensus is that Win 10 will bring new life to older computers, and the possibility to install an ssd when older OSs wouldn't allow it.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:25 AM

The moment you get Acc 11 to run on Linux, please tell us how you did it, step by step. My dream OSs would be OS X and a Linux VM.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:37 AM

Accordance will run on a Unix computer, it just needs a Mac shell around it! ;-)


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 01:28 PM

+1 as a feature request in Linux :rolleyes:


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 01:57 PM

Accordance will run on a Unix computer, it just needs a Mac shell around it! ;-)

 

Very true and some have had success with WINE... 10.4.2 is the last version that ran on it I think, but from following things on the form 11 may work in future editions of WINE since the problem appears to be a known WINE issue.

 

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 02:02 PM

by "Accordance will run on a Unix computer, it just needs a Mac shell around it! ;-)" he means... a Mac.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:01 PM

[Chuckle] Jeremy, you outed me!

 

Yes, indeed, modern Macs are nothing more than Unix machines with a Mac shell.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:29 PM

[Chuckle] Jeremy, you outed me!

 

Yes, indeed, modern Macs are nothing more than Unix machines with a Mac shell.

And a proprietary GUI ... that’s probably the biggest sticking point. Darwin is open-source, but the UI makes it more difficult to bring things to Mac.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 04:29 PM

That's why I had the smiley face; I was just playing along.  :rolleyes:


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 07:45 AM

I would have to wonder for how long Win 7 is going to be updated? Also, I just remembered that the good Win 7 laptop I bought last Week has MS Office 2007 - which is faster than the 2013 version. My dad has some left over licenses for the 2013 version since he got five licenses with the purchase of one, which he could put on my computer if I would upgrade to Win 10. (But maybe he could soon find use for some of them, as I think there's some WIn 7 computers in the family - I'll ask him today if my youngest brother's one has Win 7.)
Can 7 Home Premium be upgraded to 10? My second oldest laptop (in the order of aquiring them, and it's also the second slowest) has Win 7 HP and I've been thinking whether what I have on it really is worth keeping at all costs - and have also been thinking of lending away it to a girl I know from the Catholic college since her computer often suddenly turns off:

For Unix to make an informed decision, he might also consider that his Win 7 Pro can be upgraded to Win 10 Pro for free on July 29 or shortly afterward,


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:20 AM

Hi Unix,

 

Here are a couple of MS links that will help you with the support question I hope.

 

http://windows.micro...ndows/lifecycle

https://support.micr...2#gp/lifePolicy

 

It looks like for Win 7 we are already into extended support which will go until 2020.

If there is any regional variation applicable you would have to dig further or ask MS.

 

As to upgrading I cannot find any specific restriction on the home editions. The main thing is that you need to be on SP1 to do the auto update route. But you need to be on SP1 anyway for the extended support updates.

 

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:50 AM

It seems to be easy to still get hold of all the previous Windows versions and sometimes not that expensive, at least in Home Premium Editions. But does the information mean Vista can no longer be installed from scratch (not that I have much need to do that but if I find my installation DVD I might install on one old desktop computer)?:

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Have got a subscription on DCH in print format, €75 per volume. Those who live here: I will welcome You to this City by showing the angles everyone misses and give You a gift: One or two print Bibles or an account substituting the need for You to have a long term strategic shopping just to get started, and the uniqueness of an account will depend on how deeply You will get to do things together with me and share our intellectual and physical training passions together.
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Posted 10 June 2015 - 09:00 AM

I don't know if you can get it or not. I've never used Vista. Of course if you have the CD you could certainly install it if the hardware will take it. But I wouldn't think there would be much cause to go further back than 7. Right now I would do 7 installs or 10 beta (if they are stable enough - I've not tried) because personally I dislike 8 but that's me - 8 would hold you for a month or two easy. Then in a month and a half 10 is available if the date holds.

 

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 09:20 AM

I have all computers installed (except the oldest one which is a desktop which I mentioned in my previous post), but would perhaps want to install a Virtual Machine on one computer - it could be 7 or then 10 - that laptop is a bit old but quad-core and I really doubt I'll upgrade it to 10 but I could look how much I have on it that I'd like to keep - I've installed it only Months ago and it has Win 8.1. Then I also have one desktop computer (old quad-core) which has a bit bad disk, I don't know whether it's better to mirror the old disk or install from scratch, it used to have Windows 8.1 student license but it expired.
I checked with my dad, he doesn't have many left over Office licenses, if we activate Office 2013 on one of my computers (a fast desktop) there are no left over ones as he will probably buy mum a second computer (a desktop, in addition to her laptop). EDIT: I'm checking with dad if I could give mum my oldest laptop (2009 4 GB W7 Core 2 Duo 1.3 GHz small and mistreated SSD which would need to be mirrored to a 120 or 128 GB SSD, small computer, has to be used with external keyboard since the internal one doesn't function but all she needs is portability) - the requirement would be if she would be able to convert her current laptop to a desktop computer, I asked dad to check if it has a VGA-connector. I have a left-over VGA monitor 1366*768 pixels which would suit that purpose perfectly.
I should upgrade my best friend's desktop computer to Win 10 - will probably not afford to give her MS Office but I could look a little bit for used DVD:s with ownership license.
(And btw my dad's Office license is a rental one, not ownership):

Right now I would do 7 installs or 10 beta (if they are stable enough - I've not tried) because personally I dislike 8 but that's me - 8 would hold you for a month or two easy. Then in a month and a half 10 is available if the date holds.


Edited by Unix, 10 June 2015 - 10:04 AM.

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 12:19 PM

Dad replied that mums laptop doesn't have a proper VGA-connector, but I suggested him he sells mums laptop, I'll wait and see what he answers to that - if he would do that I could give mum my oldest laptop. I really need to plan like this to get rid of some computers and put them to better use - and it would work if I have a possibility to some day get back the computer, it would be perfect for me to give it to mum:

I checked with my dad, he doesn't have many left over Office licenses, if we activate Office 2013 on one of my computers (a fast desktop) there are no left over ones as he will probably buy mum a second computer (a desktop, in addition to her laptop). EDIT: I'm checking with dad if I could give mum my oldest laptop (2009 4 GB W7 Core 2 Duo 1.3 GHz small and mistreated SSD which would need to be mirrored to a 120 or 128 GB SSD, small computer, has to be used with external keyboard since the internal one doesn't function but all she needs is portability) - the requirement would be if she would be able to convert her current laptop to a desktop computer, I asked dad to check if it has a VGA-connector. I have a left-over VGA monitor 1366*768 pixels which would suit that purpose perfectly.


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Hardware in constant use: AMD (only CPU manufacturer and developer I recommend for everyone!) A9 equipped 15.6" monitor laptop with two batteries, Dual Core, DDR4 RAM; older desktop with Intel 2030 CPU. Both have 12 GB RAM and not even the desktop PC is entirely physically tied to my home in any way

Am in Poland on Jan. 19.-21 2019 North of Krakow; Warszawa and Rome Summer 2019

Am growing only my Accordance and print libraries, further dismissing what else to maintain
During my life I've at various levels used 15 languages, sang in half of them

EU. Fine culture Culte - busy all Monday evenings near the Royal Library and getting private tuition usually Sunday daytime one hour at the Royal Music Academy

Have got a subscription on DCH in print format, €75 per volume. Those who live here: I will welcome You to this City by showing the angles everyone misses and give You a gift: One or two print Bibles or an account substituting the need for You to have a long term strategic shopping just to get started, and the uniqueness of an account will depend on how deeply You will get to do things together with me and share our intellectual and physical training passions together.
I'm a vegan

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