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#1 Fabian

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 04:55 AM

Hello OakTree Staff

 

There are so many Bible translations in the World, so it would be easily to add in minimum 1 (one) new Bible translation per month in your shop. Better more than one, but in minimum one. I believe one per month doesn't overwhelm you. = 12 in a year and in 5 years you have 60 Bibles added which brings you also new customers.

 

 

Where are the german Bibles with Strong's? To recommend Accordance in the Seminary I need it till the new Semester in September!

 

It can be that you make more money with commentaries, so much more that you dismiss the Bibles, but don't regret the Bibles with Strong's and when not available without Strong's. And don't forget the Bible notes. I own the Elberfelder in different print versions and also in Accordance but the Accordance version hasn't the notes. There is also a newer Elberfelder Bible published since 2006, in the moment I write this letters are 9 years passed.

 

Please fine-tune the german Bibles which are came with the 11. Thanks for that but without the correct verse display they are not very useful. If you fine-tuned this then it is also easy to add the Strong's numbers to the Luther 1912, Elberfelder 1905, Schlachter 51, Münchner Neues Testament, Elberfelder Edition CSV mit Strong's, ...

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion: Add one Bible to the shop per month and best with Strong's and notes.

 


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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 06:46 AM

yes please!


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 12:37 PM

This is asking a lot, but it is a very noble goal.... I know there is a fair amount of effort getting the rights and then processing the raw text, not to mention the months that go into tagging for original language tie in. I hope Accordance takes up your challenge, but I am not sure it is feasible with the staff size (I am not aware of the actual numbers just know it is on the smaller side of things). And while Accordance is not an overly money hungry corporation, they do need to offer things that will give them enough return to justify the expense (I have little doubt that the German w/Strongs is one they are attempting to get done, I never meant to imply it would be a product that would have a small market), but to produce say one foreign language Bible that sells only 12 copies is going to be a loss. And as an english speaker I am a little embarrassed at the richness of our available choices of translations. I know personally I would love to see the The Inclusive Bible: The First Egalitarian Translation: Priests for Equality, others have recently asked for 3 or 4 other newer english translation, and I do agree with Billy Graham who said the best Bible to read is one you will read. Even what one might consider the worst translation or paraphrase will still give you the Gospel message and so much more. Like I said I would love to see Accordance pick up your challenge but I don't see it as likely.

 

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 05:18 PM

Unless a new English version comes out that sweeps the (English-speaking) world in the same way that the NIV did (back in the day) and The Message (a little more recently), I think I have had my fill of English translations of the Bible.

 

I can understand the desire of users for whom English is not their first (or only) language for more resources in their mother tongues. But thinking realistically, I can see Dan's point about producing Bibles that simply do not bring in the ROI.

 

I cannot quite understand the great desire for Strong's numbers, however. I feel the same way about Strong's numbers as I do about Vine's Expository Dictionary and the Zodhiates' Word Study NT/OT (probably still documented elsewhere on this forum). Strong's numbers must be redundant by now; if you must have number tags for amateur scholars, surely Goodrick & Kohlenberger's work has surpassed Strong's?

 

Another thing that annoys me is the requests for public domain or out of copyright works. Why would anyone spend money on the latest state-of-the-art Bible software and limit themselves to 70-year-old scholarship? Especially when so many outdated resources can be found on archive.org or openlibrary.org. I grant that in some cases important denominational works or the works of a particular scholar or theologian or teacher may be desired. I understand that some works are considered "classics" and people want them in Accordance.

 

In a perfect world we can all have what we want and someone else will do all the hard work necessary, then give away the end product for free. In a less perfect world, we would be able to create our own user tools etc from PDFs instantaneously, with faultless formatting. In the world we actually have, I am repeatedly intrigued, surprised, annoyed and delighted by the amazing range of modules that exists for Accordance, the incredible abilities of the program, the regular sales and discounts, the great people you can interact with on this forum, and the excellent customer service that Oak Tree provides. Accordance has saved my bacon countless times when I needed to preach or teach. We cannot always have what we want, but I for one think Accordance is a brilliant tool from an exceptional group of people.


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 10:40 AM

Hello 

 

To decide to create an Accordance Lite version is very great.

 

What I see is that people choose also a Bible Software because their favorite and preferred Bible is in this particular Bible Software. So a lot goes to You Version and Olive Tree.

 

Once you wrote to me: You are partnered with Biblica, thats great, but please bring then also Bibles from your partner. For example Biblica has a Bible in Dutch, the only Dutch Bible which is in Accordance is from 1637. And Netherland are not a third world country or you can only expect to sell "12 copies", if you bring a newer one.

 

it would be great if you can bring also the Bibles from Wycliff to Accordance. Since the Accordance Lite is free, they should have regret their Bibles for Accordance. In other free Bible Software they are also possible to have. 

 

"[I]n a perfect world" we would talk only in one language, like in the garden Eden, but at the moment not all speak English. 

 

Thanks for your Attention.


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Greetings

 

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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1

Accordance 12.1.5 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone X 256GB

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Accordance Mobile 2.5.6.8946


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 06:14 AM

?any new Bibles for Accordance?


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Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1

Accordance 12.1.5 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone X 256GB

iOS 11.1.1

Accordance Mobile 2.5.6.8946


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:32 PM

+1


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 06:41 PM

?any new Bibles for Accordance?

 

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:08 PM

Rick, you are yet again being so cryptic ...  ;)


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:51 PM

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And please don't tell me about the possibility of creating User Bibles in Accordance. I have enough reasons against ...


Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1

Accordance 12.1.5 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone X 256GB

iOS 11.1.1

Accordance Mobile 2.5.6.8946


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 05:54 PM

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And please don't tell me about the possibility of creating User Bibles in Accordance. I have enough reasons against ...

 

Fabian, what specific translations would you like to see added to Accordance?


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iOS

2017 iPhone X - 256 GB, Verizon, iOS 11.x

2016 iPad Pro (12.9") - 256 GB, Verizon, iOS 11.x

 

Android 

2017 Amazon Fire HD 8 - 32 GB internal + 64 GB microSD, Fire OS 5.6 (=Android OS 5.x)

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 06:15 PM

Fabian, what specific translations would you like to see added to Accordance?

I'm sure you'll find it on the Forums here with the search functions. I have wrote it more than once.


Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1

Accordance 12.1.5 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone X 256GB

iOS 11.1.1

Accordance Mobile 2.5.6.8946


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 05:54 AM

Fabian, what specific translations would you like to see added to Accordance?

 

Well, I for my part would very much like to see some recent Dutch translations added to Accordance! The only Dutch translation available right now is the "Statenvertaling", which appeared in 1637 – that's 380 years ago.


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 10:09 AM

Did any thing come of this?

https://www.accordan...-in-accordance/

Tree of life looks interesting. But agree we probably have enuf english translations.

;o)

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:24 AM

Fabian, what specific translations would you like to see added to Accordance?

 

Well, I for my part would very much like to see some recent Dutch translations added to Accordance! The only Dutch translation available right now is the "Statenvertaling", which appeared in 1637 – that's 380 years ago.

 

I'm glad to see Accordance adding more and more non English Bibles and I'm sure will add some more in the future :) 

I'd greatly appreciate including a Croatian Bible in that process - Biblija Stari i Novi Zavjet, by Kršćanska Sadašnjost, 2016. edition.

 

Thanks in advance!


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 07:37 AM

It seems, it is really not possible for OakTree and their Commentary Software to add Bible translations. 

 

ONE per month would be expected! Just start with Bibles from your partners (Biblica) and then add Bibles from future partners.

 

The import options for User Bibles are still clunky (except KJV mapping, which is a bit better), so this is not an option for the most worldwide users.


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Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1

Accordance 12.1.5 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone X 256GB

iOS 11.1.1

Accordance Mobile 2.5.6.8946


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:55 PM

I would like to see the Modern English Version (MEV) It is a modern word for word version that is translated from the Textus Receptus like the KJV.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 02:56 PM

IMHO:

The ASV (1901) should be keyed to the Greek & Hebrew text like NASB 1995 is.  Am I not correct that when it says like "with Strong" that implies keyed to original by dual high light system?  The ASV (1901) is still the most literal translation made by a committee of scholars, coming out of the ERV ~1886, thus a translation made back when scholars learned Greek as children, Bible scholars in general being much better schooled on Greek & the classics than today's crop who may be more interested in modern social issues.

 

The ASV (1901) is a scholar's translation for those who want to know what the original actually means, not to get an easy reading version in the most contemporary English.  Thus the ASV (1901) is the version that most deserves the dual highlight system for readers who want to get at the precise original meaning; it is a version for those who prefer the literal even when it produces studied ambiguity,  rather than a running interpretation or paraphrase.

 

On the topic of adding translations, as I recall last time I looked, Accordance could use more Spanish translations (not to mention Spanish language commentaries).


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:22 PM

Still an actual issue ...


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Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with SuperRetina OLED, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1

Accordance 12.1.5 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone X 256GB

iOS 11.1.1

Accordance Mobile 2.5.6.8946


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:35 AM

Working with International Bible societies is a very complex process, and we have to balance these titles with the many others we are pursuing and preparing. We will be releasing a few new versions in the coming months, with more on the way. 

 

Thanks for the feedback and requests.


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