Larry Wing Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 My subscription to Office 365 on my Windows 10 Surface Pro 3 is about to run out. Since I really don't need the "benefits" of MS Office I'm looking into using another word processor that can handled Accordance 11 URLs. Does anyone know how well Libre Office works with Accordance? I don't have installed as I wanted to ask before I did that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Hello Larry Unfortunately I had it uninstalled the App Store Version of Vanilla Libre Office two days ago, because it had absolute an annoying behavior. But NeoOffice which is based on LibreOffice work by clicking with cmd. But it opens always a new WorkSpace. Greetings Fabian Edited January 17, 2016 by Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) I have used LibreOffice because I read somewhere it will open lots of old legacy file formats—and Word etc. So while I haven't used it with Accordance, I have used it and it works well enough for me. It gets a better rating on www.macupdate.com than NeoOffice and the other free office alternatives. EDIT: I have used the Mac version, needless to say. Edited January 17, 2016 by Alistair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) I use LibreOffice on Mac and Windows. I just tried a quick test with 11.1.3 and links work fine. There is a foible in the pasting in of the link. It pastes the text without a link target. You can fix it by editing the link. I think it may be because LO is not recognising the accord: protocol. But once in it works fine. It will bring up a new workspace though. I have never used the version from the App Store. I just downloaded directly from libreoffice. I can retest on Win 10 this afternoon/evening, assuming my Win 7 -> 10 upgrade goes smoothly. Thx D Edited January 17, 2016 by Daniel Semler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Weaks Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Can I just say I hate the software subscription business model as a user. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Ok the Win 10 upgrade went through ok. Much faster than I expect but that's the joy of SSDs. Link behaviour in LO and Accordance is the same as Mac. So you need to paste the link text in hit Ctrl-K and paste the same text into the target of the link and hit enter. Then ctrl-click on the link works. There is a problem in Acc which I'll open a new topic on. Its possible to end up with a second library pane open when the click is processed if the library is open in the workspace which is in focus - I think. Need to work out the proper test case. Also, new workspace which has a tab set with recycle, so subsequent link clicks for the same text and search field will reuse the tab. But it looks like it opens a new workspace for each new tab it might otherwise need. I don't that that is down to LO though. I will need to do some tests. thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Can I just say I hate the software subscription business model as a user. Amen! Being an old-school Mac user I have tried to avoid using Microsoft products. This now extends to Google and Adobe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bennett Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 OpenOffice has a native Mac version as well. I stopped updating / installing NeoOffice or LibrOffice once they launched their own version. I do not use it very much, but it seems to do everything just for the average user, and also supports Hebrew pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 When Word was first released in 1990, it cost $495. PowerPoint and Excel were each also $495. So, a total of about $1500 for the three apps. Today you can get all three for $9.95/month, can share it among 5 family members, and you get 1TB of online storage as well. And you never have to pay to upgrade; you always have the latest version. It would take more than 12 years to equal the cost of the 1990 apps. And, if you're an educator or student, the cost is only $20/year. I love the pay-as-you-go model. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Weaks Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 LibreOffice is the most popular Open Office fork now, and that will only increase as Open Office gets left behind. It is incorrect to think of Open Office today as if it's the 'main'/'original'. It's the Apache fork, and it is almost dead. It has less than a fifth of the number of active developers that LibreOffice has. LibreOffice is compiled Mac native (which shouldn't be confused with nor errantly associated with the Java-wrapped NeoOffice), and it's code has been WAY improved and cleaned. LibreOffice is the spiritual direct descendant of OpenOffice.org. Today's Apache Open Office is the poor result of corporate politics. Mark, I'm happy that you're happy, cause I like you and yearn for all God's children to be happy (especially the ones I like). But I haven't a clue what your discussion of 1990 prices has to do with anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Bennett Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 LibreOffice is the most popular Open Office fork now, and that will only increase as Open Office gets left behind. It is incorrect to think of Open Office today as if it's the 'main'/'original'. It's the Apache fork, and it is almost dead. It has less than a fifth of the number of active developers that LibreOffice has. LibreOffice is compiled Mac native (which shouldn't be confused with nor errantly associated with the Java-wrapped NeoOffice), and it's code has been WAY improved and cleaned. LibreOffice is the spiritual direct descendant of OpenOffice.org. Today's Apache Open Office is the poor result of corporate politics. Thanks for clarifying; I haven't been staying up with things recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Joe, Let my clarify. You stated that, as a user, you hated the software subscription model. I was simply demonstrating that it has resulted in a significant value enhancement for the user over the traditional business model. Edited January 18, 2016 by Mark Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lawrence Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Joe, Let my clarify. You stated that, as a user, you hated the software subscription model. I was simply demonstrating that it has resulted in a significant value enhancement for the user over the traditional business model. Let me kindly say that I hope Accordance never follows this new business model. Like Joe, I don't like renting software. It is for that reason I continue to use Office 2011 and older versions of Adobe software. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 When Word was first released in 1990, it cost $495. PowerPoint and Excel were each also $495. So, a total of about $1500 for the three apps. Today you can get all three for $9.95/month, can share it among 5 family members, and you get 1TB of online storage as well. And you never have to pay to upgrade; you always have the latest version. It would take more than 12 years to equal the cost of the 1990 apps. And, if you're an educator or student, the cost is only $20/year. I love the pay-as-you-go model. Yeah, but no-one is comparing it to software prices of 25 years ago. They are comparing to to the free software of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Let me kindly say that I hope Accordance never follows this new business model. Like Joe, I don't like renting software. It is for that reason I continue to use Office 2011 and older versions of Adobe software. Accordance apparently has this thing where you need to use it online every couple of weeks or it shuts you out (this is described in some other thread on this forum). You have to actively request to have it deactivated. It should be the other way around. I don't remember when this 'functionality' was sneaked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Brown Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Alistair: This applies only to people on a payment plan who basically are using software before they have fully purchased it. Once you have paid off the purchase, you will not need to be online every week. Most users never encounter this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorinda H. M. Hoover Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (which shouldn't be confused with nor errantly associated with the Java-wrapped NeoOffice) I don't think this is accurate anymore for NeoOffice. NeoOffice is primarily available in the Mac App Store, which doesn't allow Java. And Neo has long included lots of native Mac elements that Openoffice didn't. That said, for all that I still use Neo personally, and was once an active support volunteer on Neo's forums, I would agree that LibreOffice or OpenOffice are probably better alternatives for Mac users now, as Neo is essentially a one man shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) (which shouldn't be confused with nor errantly associated with the Java-wrapped NeoOffice) Why came then all the time a pop-up in OpenOffice and LibreOffice, that Java was missed on my Mac? For me: All 3 can be better in Regex searchs and replaces. I miss some commands. Greetings Fabian Edited January 19, 2016 by Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Λύχνις Δαν Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I believe there is a lot of extension support is in Java. The support extension in C, python and Java. Thx D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Voth Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I downloaded LibreOffice from the App store, though haven't used it much. I think Java is only necessary for certain parts of the program. According to the system requirements it is needed for the database part. What I find interesting is that it can open older formats and older Pages documents. For an alternative to Adobe software there is the new Affinity software (Photo and Designer) that is becoming popular. They are working on other programs as well. I have Affinity Photo and find it to be a great program. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lawrence Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 For an alternative to Adobe software there is the new Affinity software (Photo and Designer) that is becoming popular. They are working on other programs as well. I have Affinity Photo and find it to be a great program. Thanks David, I looked at Photo and it looks very promising. I think it is evident that there is a large segment of users who are resistant to subscription based software. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Weaks Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 The comparison (debate?) between OpenOffice for Mac and LibreOffice (and NeoOffice) will continue to decrease. NeoOffice is nearly dead in terms of active developers right?, and OpenOffice pales in comparison to active developers for LibreOffice, along with an interesting open licensing snafu that any new code feature added to OpenOffice can be ripped out and added to LibreOffice as compatible with its license, but that is NOT the case the other way around. New LibreOffice code is not compatible with OpenOffice license. These situation lead to what happened sometime last year, that LibreOffice is now just too far ahead and will remain. (Until something new comes. I just think OpenOffice--NeoOffice--LibreOffice (the order in which I used them over the years) is an AMAZING thing to have available open source. a-maz-ing. And yes, it's isolated extensions that require Java. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks you Joe for your explanation. Greetings Fabian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vparunak Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'm an enthusiastic LibreOffice user, and often need to copy passages of biblical text into my documents. I was thrilled to discover Accordance services, and they work great elsewhere. I can look up references from PDF documents via Preview, and copy verses into a document not only in Pages, but also in editors from other sources (BBEdit, the text editor in PathFinder). So I know they're installed and working. But for some reason the Accordance services don't show up in LibreOffice/Services. Is there some magic incantation I need to utter? I'm on OSX 10.14.6, LibreOffice 6.2.7.1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Weaks Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'm an enthusiastic LibreOffice user, and often need to copy passages of biblical text into my documents. I was thrilled to discover Accordance services, and they work great elsewhere. I can look up references from PDF documents via Preview, and copy verses into a document not only in Pages, but also in editors from other sources (BBEdit, the text editor in PathFinder). So I know they're installed and working. But for some reason the Accordance services don't show up in LibreOffice/Services. Is there some magic incantation I need to utter? I'm on OSX 10.14.6, LibreOffice 6.2.7.1. There are some applications that haven't put in the code needed to take advantage of some macOS text services, such as three-finger tap lookup, Services, etc. If that is the case, your workaround is to use Services that are based off of sending the current selection to the clipboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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