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#21 ukfraser

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 03:27 PM

Looks like if you want the maps you need to buy the esv study bible notes addon. Its worth getting them, absolute bargain.

https://www.accordan...udy Bible-addon

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 08:12 PM

I saw this and thought "Oh, are they moving to a continuous release schedule, with improvements coming every month?"

 

So sad that it's the opposite. There's so much that needs fixing. (Namely, the English. :P)



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Posted 13 August 2016 - 11:42 AM

I saw another update of the modules today.  Downloaded without a hitch.  During the install, however, Accordance hung and I had to force-quit (on the MacBook Air and the Mac mini).

 

When I reopened Accordance, I found that I had an incomplete install on the mini, but a complete install on the MBA.  Just a FYI – I was able to get it all installed and everything is working.

 

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 03:41 PM

Crossway has released its own list of changes in the new ESV Permanent Text Edition:

http://www.esv.org/about/pt-changes/

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Posted 13 August 2016 - 06:38 PM

Rick, not all of the changes listed from Crossway match up with the Accordance text. For example 1 Kings 8:48.


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Posted 14 August 2016 - 04:36 AM

Do they have some divine insight that makes them believe no new manuscripts will be discovered that are significant enough that the majority of scholarship will agree on amendments? 


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Posted 14 August 2016 - 06:08 AM

I think its just that it takes a lot of time and effort to carve them into stone and despite modern technology, there isnt a sort of 'whitepaper correction fluid' for marble.

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Stone tablets are Not the easiest things to carry or store though!

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Posted 15 August 2016 - 10:50 AM

Rick, not all of the changes listed from Crossway match up with the Accordance text. For example 1 Kings 8:48.

 

Randy, are you sure you've updated? Mine look the same in 1 Kings 8:48 unless I'm am just overlooking something. See attached screenshot, which is from ESVS 5.1, although I just saw that 5.2 has been released. 

 

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Posted 15 August 2016 - 01:37 PM

Randy, are you sure you've updated? Mine look the same in 1 Kings 8:48 unless I'm am just overlooking something. See attached screenshot, which is from ESVS 5.1, although I just saw that 5.2 has been released. 

 

attachicon.gifScreen Shot 2016-08-15 at 11.45.18 AM.png

 

The Permanent Text version is the left column. So in this instance, Randy is right ... our text still shows the "old" version.

 

I cannot, however, speak to the source file from which our updates came.



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Posted 15 August 2016 - 01:40 PM

My fault. Fixed the script that adds the key number tagging, but missed the text itself. It will be fixed in 5.3.



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Posted 15 August 2016 - 01:42 PM

The Permanent Text version is the left column. So in this instance, Randy is right ... our text still shows the "old" version.

 

Ah, I wasn't paying attention. When I compare texts, I always put the older one on the left, so I guess I expected the rest of the world to be like me, too :-)


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Posted 15 August 2016 - 04:20 PM

Thanks Julie, Mark, and Rick for looking at this. It is interesting that the Crossway list of changes does not include spelling changes, addition of quotation marks, and versification changes.


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 10:32 AM

Do they have some divine insight that makes them believe no new manuscripts will be discovered that are significant enough that the majority of scholarship will agree on amendments? 

Leaving the text as is for now is not the same as saying the text is perfect and set for all time. It just means that the committee is done with the planned revisions. If something significant happened like discovery of important manuscripts that justified further revisions, I'd bet multiple translation committees would at least consider it. 

 

Edit: I hadn't yet read Crossway's statement. It looks like they plan to leave the text forever after all. There's a reason we're not all using the KJV. :)


Edited by JonathanHuber, 18 August 2016 - 10:43 AM.

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Posted 18 August 2016 - 01:24 PM

KJV permanent text edition + x years = NKJV

ESV permanent text edition + y years = NESV

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Posted 18 August 2016 - 04:40 PM

Hey Rick,

Can you repost that PDF with the text differences? It looks like it has been taken down.

Gavin

 

You can find the official statement and list of the changes on Crossway's esv.org website. Very interesting...



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Posted 20 August 2016 - 04:10 PM

I upgraded to ESV permanent text, but lost the ESVS - the new permanent edition does not contain Strong's Numbering system?


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Posted 20 August 2016 - 05:12 PM

I upgraded to ESV permanent text, but lost the ESVS - the new permanent edition does not contain Strong's Numbering system?


No, the ESVS is updated to the latest ESVS which is the permanent text edition. If you have lost the ESVS (check by searching your library) then just reinstall via easy install - it will install the permanent text edition. Yes it has Strong's numbers.

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Posted Yesterday, 10:19 AM

My fault. Fixed the script that adds the key number tagging, but missed the text itself. It will be fixed in 5.3.

 

Mark is as good as his word. 5.3 is here, and it is fixed. Thanks Mark.


Edited by Randy Cue, Yesterday, 10:19 AM.

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