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Posted 13 February 2017 - 02:46 AM

I have bought some Accordance resources but I don't like the iOS app. I really don't like how there aren't visual markers (book names, big chapter numbers, space between books, etc.). The Psalms look like they are one big Psalm unless you look at the little numbers. Same thing with books. They just flow into the next book. For those reasons the app is unusable to me :-(  

I don't know if this helps: Press AA, All display Settings, Show and there you can choose the preferred one.


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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:41 AM

Also, I prefer to turn pages. Scrolling is distracting to me. I can't believe they haven't added page turning. Almost embarrassing. 

 

I respect different people have different preferences. Page turning style has always been frustrating to me, how do you highlight a verse or sentence that runs out of the bottom of the page?


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  2. Improved searching for Journal articles. (So we can search for journal article by verse + english text)
  3. Display Journal titles in journal search results. (Imagine a google search where you saw the page text but no headings?)
  4. Improved greek text search—i.e. allow searching of all greek text the same way you would search LXX+NT, i.e. LXX+NT+ApocFathers+etc...
  5. Phrase (sympathetic) highlighting.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:35 AM

I respect different people have different preferences. Page turning style has always been frustrating to me, how do you highlight a verse or sentence that runs out of the bottom of the page?

 

The Logos approach (if you prefer swiping to scrolling) is to allow you to use two fingers to scroll the text into position. Kindle lets you continue a highlight on to the next page if you hold down at the edge of a page after you've started a highlight. Either solution works well enough, I think.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:24 AM

I have bought some Accordance resources but I don't like the iOS app. I really don't like how there aren't visual markers (book names, big chapter numbers, space between books, etc.). The Psalms look like they are one big Psalm unless you look at the little numbers. Same thing with books. They just flow into the next book. For those reasons the app is unusable to me :-(  

 

Also, I prefer to turn pages. Scrolling is distracting to me. I can't believe they haven't added page turning. Almost embarrassing. 

 

Gavin,

 

Just to let you know, if you go to the Library and click on the gear you can then go to Text Display. This will allow you to control the size of the text as well as the reference and how the text is dsiplayed. This will change the way all of your texts are displayed (Fabian's advice will change the way the one text you are viewing is displayed).

 

I would suggest playing around with different things until you find a view you enjoy and can work with. There are options for Tool settings, User Notes, etc.


Edited by revtim, 13 February 2017 - 09:26 AM.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:50 AM

Also, I prefer to turn pages. Scrolling is distracting to me. I can't believe they haven't added page turning. Almost embarrassing. 

 

If you like page turning, your patience may be rewarded soon in the form of an option. I can say no more at the present time, though :-)


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 05:31 PM

If you like page turning, your patience may be rewarded soon in the form of an option. I can say no more at the present time, though :-)

 

Rick,

 

That is not very cryptic at all ... ;)


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:04 PM

Nice! I've played with the text settings. 

 

I wish you could show book names when new books start. For instance, there is no break or sign that Malachi ends and Matthew begins. 

 

Also, the psalms look like one big psalm. 


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:55 PM

Nice! I've played with the text settings. 

 

I wish you could show book names when new books start. For instance, there is no break or sign that Malachi ends and Matthew begins. 

 

Also, the psalms look like one big psalm. 

 

Actually, now that you mention it, thinking about it, you are right, sometimes I get a little confused when I am scrolling and it accidentally flicks into another book of the bible and I haven't realised. Maybe titles would be a good idea.  

 

However, that said, I like to read the biblical text as close as possible to how it was originally communicated, with as few titles/paragraphs as possible, so while book titles might be good, I would hate to start seeing all those annoying subheadings.


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My top 5 feature requests:
  1. 15pt font size for reading text (bible, journal articles, commentaries, etc...)
  2. Improved searching for Journal articles. (So we can search for journal article by verse + english text)
  3. Display Journal titles in journal search results. (Imagine a google search where you saw the page text but no headings?)
  4. Improved greek text search—i.e. allow searching of all greek text the same way you would search LXX+NT, i.e. LXX+NT+ApocFathers+etc...
  5. Phrase (sympathetic) highlighting.

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 05:18 PM

I agree Gold! 

 

I don't mind not having the subheadings! Also, what about justified text option?



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:05 PM

Hi Julia, 

 

Have you heard anything on the NASB update?



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:21 PM

Hi Julia, 

 

Have you heard anything on the NASB update?

 

As far as I know, we're still looking at mid-2017, maybe a little later.  I would expect us to have an electronic version available before the premium Bibles from evangelicalbible.com are available.  In fact, the gentleman at Lockman with whom I was corresponding said the Schuyler would probably not be available until 2018 – the handcrafted Bibles take longer to produce.  So we must be patient.


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:17 AM

If you like page turning, your patience may be rewarded soon in the form of an option. I can say no more at the present time, though :-)

 

A month later and we must be a month closer !!!! 

 

Is there still no more you can say at this present time, Rick?


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Posted 11 March 2017 - 01:54 PM

A month later and we must be a month closer !!!! 
 
Is there still no more you can say at this present time, Rick?


Yes, I can affirm that a month later, we are a month closer. I'd say more, but I already have too many demerits on the "Don't Spill the Beans" chart on the wall at the Accordance home office in Altamonte Springs.
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Posted 27 March 2017 - 12:33 AM

As far as I know, we're still looking at mid-2017, maybe a little later.  

 

The NASB Facebook fan group has feedback suggesting things are looking like they are stretching into much later in 2017 or even early 2018.


My top 5 feature requests:
  1. 15pt font size for reading text (bible, journal articles, commentaries, etc...)
  2. Improved searching for Journal articles. (So we can search for journal article by verse + english text)
  3. Display Journal titles in journal search results. (Imagine a google search where you saw the page text but no headings?)
  4. Improved greek text search—i.e. allow searching of all greek text the same way you would search LXX+NT, i.e. LXX+NT+ApocFathers+etc...
  5. Phrase (sympathetic) highlighting.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 10:39 AM

Ιακοβ –

 

I guess we really shouldn't be too surprised.  Thanks for the update.  I'm not on Facebook – these forums are the closest I get to social media – so I would appreciate any further updates.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 11:12 AM

The NASB Facebook fan group has feedback suggesting things are looking like they are stretching into much later in 2017 or even early 2018.

In the meantime Accordance can bring some other Bibles which the updates are out. I think on Elberfelder 2016, Einheitsübersetzung 2016 or some foreign languages which had no Bible in Accordance. 


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ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 02:50 PM

Hello Rick, 

 

Do you think at some point you guys will separate books/separate Psalms by titles? Ex: Genesis, Exodus, Psalm 1, Psalm 2, etc. That way you can see when books end?


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 02:57 PM

I'm not a programmer, so I don't make those calls; however, what I've advocated for a long time is the optional (key word) ability to turn on the section headings that are available in most texts--transalations and biblical language. I would like to see this because I find in print Bibles, this helps me to locate content much more quickly. But I've not heard it's coming. I have no information at this time.
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Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:25 PM

I would not use it. It's not Biblical and there's an extremely high level of interpretation, almost all Editions have numerous errors: Such as badly outdated headings when research has proven things but it has been retained just for the sake of "tradition". Even a traditional language 20th century English Bible version such as the 1971 RSV is really great and often my most used Bible for many parts of Scripture, all the while I'm horrified that secondary labels on things are retained due to tradition:

I'm not a programmer, so I don't make those calls; however, what I've advocated for a long time is the optional (key word) ability to turn on the section headings that are available in most texts--transalations and biblical language. I would like to see this because I find in print Bibles, this helps me to locate content much more quickly. But I've not heard it's coming. I have no information at this time.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 04:25 PM

I would not use it. 

 

And that's why I said optional was the key word. 


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