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κυριον in Rom 10:9 (NA28)


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When I right-click on this noun in Rom 10:9 and want to search for lemma, I do not get Rom 10:9 in the search results.

Why is that? I this word not properly tagged?

 

Hans

 

(I'm using 12.0.2b2)

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Hi Hans

 

When I tried this the Search for -> lexeme you get this as the search "=κύριος". So it will search for exactly that form which is not the accusative. Search for -> Inflected also includes quotes but no the = and thus it does find 10:9.

 

What search string are you seeing in the search box of the tab that opens ?

 

Thx

D

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Sorry, I have posted to the wrong thread.  (Deleted).

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What search string are you seeing in the search box of the tab that opens ?

 

 

 

"=κύριος"

 

IMHO Rm 10:9 should be included in the results.

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It would be if the search were not an exact inflected search. But as it is κυριον will not be found. If you remove the quotes and = then you will see Rm 10:9 included.

 

This is because the search is constructed as lexical exact. If you hold down the option key as you click on the lexeme search it will create a search for the specific κυριον form which will find Rm 10:9.

 

There doesn't appear to be a direct way to create the uninflected search for κυριος which would also find it but I may have missed it.

 

Thx

D

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It would be if the search were not an exact inflected search. But as it is κυριον will not be found. If you remove the quotes and = then you will see Rm 10:9 included.

 

This is because the search is constructed as lexical exact. If you hold down the option key as you click on the lexeme search it will create a search for the specific κυριον form which will find Rm 10:9.

 

There doesn't appear to be a direct way to create the uninflected search for κυριος which would also find it but I may have missed it.

 

Thx

D

 

Yes, but normally this right click on a word and then on lemma creates a lexical/lemma search (without the quotes).

Why not in this case? It should be: 

 

=κύριος

 

BTW when I enter this manually, I get: =κύριος-2

 

Hans

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Ok I went back through 12.0.1 and 11.2.4 and I still see the same behaviour.

 

You have said you are doing a "lemma" search. I am not seeing anything in the right click menu that actually says "lemma". The four options I see from selecting a word and then doing right-click -> Search For ... are Lexeme, Inflected, Root and Tag. I assume you mean what I see as Lexeme in my case, though if you are using a non-English interface perhaps it is called something slightly different.

 

I went through preferences to see if there was a pref controlling this but I couldn't see one.

 

So I'm afraid I cannot explain the change you are seeing. Did you upgrade recently from something much earlier, like pre-11.2.4, maybe 10.x ?

 

Thx

D

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Yes, it should be 'lexeme'. I see that. If I remember correctly, it was 'lemma' in some previous release.

I upgraded from 11 to 12. I am on beta now, but did also check the stable version (12).

 

Hans

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Thanks Daniel for looking into this.

Seems nobody else is interested. Its a bug or a wrong tagging imho.

 

Hans

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Someone was interested :-)

This was a bug and is fixed now in the lasted beta RC.

 

Thank you!!

 

Hans

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