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#1 Julia Falling

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 12:51 PM

Hey –

 

Still wandering around in a Hebrew fog, bumping into things and feeling generally overwhelmed.

 

How do I search for all Hithpael-stem verbs in Accordance?  All the other derived stems are listed.  Pratico & Van Pelt say there are 842 of them (bottom of page 385).  I'm sure there must be a way to search for it but I lack the appropriate nomenclature.

 

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 01:08 PM

Fellow wanderer in Hebrew over here :) I appreciate your posts on Hebrew. Nice to know I'm not alone :) And your post on the 2fs perfect verbs helped find tagging errors in ETCBC. So that was really good.

 

On the hithpael - sorry I don't know.

 

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 01:45 PM

I think it might be Hitpael.  I think the Hebrew fog is doing something to my vision as well as my brain?  The spelling don't doesn't match what is in my textbook.  Duh …

 

EDIT:  Apparently, Hebrew is also wrecking my grammar.  This is so sad!


Edited by Julia Falling, 31 January 2017 - 09:07 PM.

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 02:54 PM

Hi,

 

Without going into detail, hithpael is the correct biblical pronunciation. Acc uses a Modern Hebrew pronunciation.

 

Julia, I think your text must have mentioned the  בְּגַדְכְּפַתletters. The ת in הִתְפַּעֵל closes the (CvC) syllable so it is pronounced as a fricative, transliterated as "th." In Sephardic pronunciation, ג , ד , and ת don't have the soft pronunciation - they are hard stops g, d, and t.

 

So, yes, hithpael = hitpael.

 

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:46 PM

Thanks, Michel.


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Posted Today, 04:28 AM

This feels like a stupid answer, as if I've missed something.

Have you tried searching for [VERB hitpael]? It's under stems in the drop down box.

 

Accordance says 840 hits after doing analytics, with 171 verbs represented.

 

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Posted Today, 05:19 PM

Douglas – There is a difference in the spelling of the conjugations between Pratico and Van Pelt and Accordance.  I think I've got it now.  Thanks.


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