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#1 jbriones

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:00 PM

So, I just started using Accordance 12 since yesterday (yay!). However, I think a good tool for the diagram section is this:

 

Be able to use the diagram tool so that resembles the text (BHS, GNT) rather than a number of individual words separated vertically (as it stands right now). Also, if we could separate the words and link them all rather than having them all individually separated would be cool to, but for now the resemblance of the text is key!

 

Thank you,

 



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:09 PM

The formatting of the text once it enters the diagramming tool always matches the format in which it was displayed in the text from which you grabbed it.

 

So.. have you tried expanding the display window of the text (for example, the GNT) so that the text is wider then selecting it and hitting the diagram button?

 

Edit: This may not be entirely true. It may be dropped according to the width of the target (the diagramming pane).  Either way, it can be controlled.

 

Hope that helps!


Edited by jarcher, 18 May 2017 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:30 PM

The formatting of the text once it enters the diagramming tool always matches the format in which it was displayed in the text from which you grabbed it.

 

So.. have you tried expanding the display window of the text (for example, the GNT) so that the text is wider then selecting it and hitting the diagram button?

 

Edit: This may not be entirely true. It may be dropped according to the width of the target (the diagramming pane).  Either way, it can be controlled.

 

Hope that helps!

I tried changing it, but it does not allow me. It keeps showing a long vertical pane instead of resembling the text. Something like this:

 

Jeremiah 1:1

Hebrew

Hebrew

Hebrew 

 

Instead of                                                            Hebrew  Hebrew Hebrew Jeremiah 1:1

 

Any help would be appreciate it. If anything, make it more intuitive for users. I know my friends were able to do this in Logos very easily. 



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:48 PM

Thanks for the follow up. I haven't been able to reproduce this on either the Windows or the Mac version but let's see if we can figure it out.

 

 

The process I typically use is:

1) Select the text I want to diagram from the text window (GNT, English, Hebrew).

2) Click the diagram button from my toolbar (or select Diagram from Amplify > Language > Diagram)

 

Is that the same process you're using?



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:58 PM

Here is a video that demonstrates some of the features of the diagramming tool and should give you an idea of what you should experience.

 

 

http://www.accordanc...mprovements.mp4


Edited by jarcher, 18 May 2017 - 06:00 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:28 PM

What version of Accordance are you running, by the way?


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 08:27 AM

What version of Accordance are you running, by the way?

I am using version 12.0.6

 

@Jarcher. Yes that is the way in which I am selecting the text and diagramming it.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:09 AM

Have you tried with a different text, say HMT-W4 ? I cannot repro. what you are seeing in HMT-W4 .

 

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#9 jbriones

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:19 AM

Have you tried with a different text, say HMT-W4 ? I cannot repro. what you are seeing in HMT-W4 .

 

Thx

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Yes. I tried with the Westminster Text as well and it gave me similar issues. Tried with the GNT as well and even with an English version (ESV). Same issue all along.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:50 AM

Hmmmm.... not sure - I cannot repro. this on either Mac or Windows I'm afraid.

The other thing that's odd is that the Hebrew example you posted is all to the left. When I use Hebrew I see it start on the right side and go RTL. I wonder if there is some sort of margin in effect that is pushing the text all to the left and thus causing it have to break every word.

 

Thx

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"Du stammst vom Herrn Adam und der Herrin Eva ab", sagte Aslan. "Und das ist zugleich Ehre genug, um das Häupt des ärmsten Bettlers zu erheben, und genug, um die Schultern des größten Kaisers auf Erden zu beugen. Sei zufrieden." Aslan, Die Chroniken von Narnia, Prinz Kaspian von Narnia. CS Lewis. Übersetzt von Wolfgang Holbein und Christian Rendel.

Accordance Syntax Search For Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics : https://github.com/4...WallaceInSyntax

 

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:57 AM

jbriones, once you open a diagramming pane can you press control-T and show us the dialog window that pops up? I've also been unable to reproduce this issue.  Very strange...



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:01 PM

Here it is @jarcher

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Edited by jbriones, 19 May 2017 - 12:01 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:42 PM

That's the same as what I have. 

 

I was able to partially reproduce this by choosing File -> Page Setup  and adjusting my margins.

 

I'm wondering if you click the text pane from which you're selecting the text then choose Page Setup and enter "1" for all margins and then trying again if that changes anything.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:50 PM

Is that by any chance a 4K external monitor or something else pretty hires ?

 

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lišanu ēdēnitu damqitu lišanu mītu

"Du stammst vom Herrn Adam und der Herrin Eva ab", sagte Aslan. "Und das ist zugleich Ehre genug, um das Häupt des ärmsten Bettlers zu erheben, und genug, um die Schultern des größten Kaisers auf Erden zu beugen. Sei zufrieden." Aslan, Die Chroniken von Narnia, Prinz Kaspian von Narnia. CS Lewis. Übersetzt von Wolfgang Holbein und Christian Rendel.

Accordance Syntax Search For Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics : https://github.com/4...WallaceInSyntax

 

Accordance Crib Sheets: http://47rooks.com/l...ch-crib-sheets/

 

 

Accordance Configurations :

Mac : 2009 27" iMac
12GB RAM

Windows : MSI GE72 7RE Apache Pro laptop
Intel Core Duo Intel i7 Kabylake

Android : Samsung Note III 5.0, Samsung Tab S3 7.0 and Lenovo TAB4 8" 7.1


#15 jbriones

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Posted 21 May 2017 - 11:00 AM

Is that by any chance a 4K external monitor or something else pretty hires ?

 

Thx

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No. It is a 1080p display as far as I know. I have a Surface Pro 3. I tried it and it already had the margins at 1 for all of them, so I really don't know what's going on.







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