Jump to content


Photo

Need some help on switching from Logos to Accordance

Greek Morphology

  • Please log in to reply
2 replies to this topic

#1 [email protected]

[email protected]

    Member

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 2 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Joplin, MO
  • Interests:Biblical Greek, Chicago Cubs
  • Accordance Version:12.x
  • Platforms:Mac OS X

Posted Yesterday, 09:09 PM

This summer I am retrofitting a hermeneutics course that was built to use Logos Bible Software to Accordance. After many years in the Logos camp, my institution is switching to Accordance.

 

We have a unit that speaks about tense, voice, and mood. Originally, it was designed to use Logos Bible Software's Morphology Charts.

 

I am searching for the closest thing in Accordance. As an example, here is the Morphology Chart for the verb πιστεύω: (See attached file "Morphology Chart πιστεύω.jpg") Attached File  Morphology Chart πιστεύω.jpg   149.03KB   0 downloads

 

To search on that word in Accordance, I opened up NA28 Greek NT to John 3:16, clicked on the inflected form πιστεύων, and then searched on Lexeme. In the Analytics, I created a pie chart filtered on Tense: (See attached file "Accordance πιστεύω on Tense.jpg) Attached File  Accordance πιστεύω on Tense.jpg   21.85KB   0 downloads

 

What I would like is a way to display ALL of the different inflected forms with parsing. To my way of thinking, I would like to click on the 111 Present Tense forms of the πιστεύω Pie Chart, and have it search and display ALL of the different present tense inflected forms of the verb. 

 

I WAS able to display the 111 present tense form of πιστεύω by creating a [LINK Greek Construct], but the analysis was a bit disappointing. I'm also attaching a screen capture of that Greek Construct search. Attached File  Present Tense πιστεύω Accordance.jpg   98.49KB   0 downloads

 

Can someone help me figure out an easier way to get to that?

 

 

 

 


Edited by [email protected], Yesterday, 09:10 PM.

  • Fabian likes this

#2 דָנִיאֶל

דָנִיאֶל

    Mithril

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,710 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Accordance Version:12.x
  • Platforms:Mac OS X, Windows

Posted Yesterday, 10:01 PM

Hi ya,

 

  A couple of suggestions.

 

  You can get Acc to construct the search by holding the shift key and clicking on the Present slice of the pie. That will open a new text tab and search for πιστεύω@[ANY Present].

 

  On the parsing it's a little more tricky. You can get the parsing by :

 

  1. do your search.

  2. Select a block of the text

  3. right click and select Look Up -> Parsing.

 

  In the tab that opens you can customize the display (click on the gear icon and select Cusomize Display) to show you parsing for only the 'hit' words rather than for all the words in the selection.

 

  You cannot do this for more than 200 verses at a stretch. So you cannot get all the parsing for πιστεύω in the GNT - it's just too widely used. But you can get it for parsing for all present forms of the word. It will also do it for all occurrences not just for the unique cases. I don't know what you need there so this may suit you or it might not.

 

  You could also use the Analytics tab, which can be customized to show stats for all the distinct forms. Click on the View Analytics pull down in the middle of the text pane border and select Analysis from the Word Count Totals section of the menu.

 

Thx

D


Sola lingua bona est lingua mortua

ἡ μόνη ἀγαθὴ γλῶσσα γλῶσσα νεκρὰ ἐστιν

lišanu ēdēnitu damqitu lišanu mītu

 

"Du stammst vom Herrn Adam und der Herrin Eva ab", sagte Aslan. "Und das ist zugleich Ehre genug, um das Häupt des ärmsten Bettlers zu erheben, und genug, um die Schultern des größten Kaisers auf Erden zu beugen. Sei zufrieden." Aslan, Die Chroniken von Narnia, Prinz Kaspian von Narnia. CS Lewis. Übersetzt von Wolfgang Holbein und Christian Rendel.

 

Accordance Configurations :
 
Mac : 2009 27" iMac                 Windows : HP 4540s laptop
      Intel Core Duo                          Intel i5 Ivy Bridge
      12GB RAM                                8GB RAM
      Accordance 11.2.4 and 12                Accordance 11.1.6 and 12
      OSX 10.11 (Yosemite)                    Win 10 Professional x64


#3 Fabian

Fabian

    Mithril

  • Active Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,148 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Accordance Version:12.x
  • Platforms:Mac OS X, iOS

Posted Yesterday, 11:41 PM

I believe such a feature must be programmed first, because it gives you also visual sight of zero hits. I would definitely love it and I know in minimum 1 other person too.

+2 for such a feature.

Greetings

Fabian

Greetings

 

Fabian

 

ATTENTION: My bug reports are all with the GERMAN INTERFACE and with the EUROPEAN NOTATION! It can be the English interface has no bug, which I describe.

 

Mac Air (13-inch, Mid 2013)

1,3 GHz Intel Core i5

4GB Ram

Next time: I'll buy only one with Retina, and hopefully without a glossy screen. A faster CPU and more RAM.

 

Sierra 10.12.5

Accordance 12.0.6 and waiting on 13 (on iPad Pro with 3D touch)

 

iPhone 4S

iOS 9.3.5

Accordance Mobile 2.5.5






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Greek, Morphology

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users