Brett K. Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Another NOT search usecase. I was asked if there were any Bible translations that did not use the word "alien(s)" at all—zero times. I opened a research window and searched all texts for "<NOT> alien". Of course, that returned nothing.The bottom line is that I had to go a pretty round about way to get the information. There were a handfull of translations that did not use the word at all, but I couldn't find an automated way for Accordance to get this information. I had to find all of the translations that did have it, then manually look for the ones that weren't on the list.Am I missing something? Is there an easy way to do this?Thanks -- Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hunt Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 What about using an article search such as "the <NOT> alien" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett K. Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 I tried that exact search and it found every translation since they all had "the". I don't know why the <NOT> had no effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Simpson Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 It found every verse that had ‘the’ in it but not ‘alien’. So a heck of a lot of verses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Allison Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I'm not sure of a way to find all the translations that don't have a word. But a search for *@alien? will find all the translations that have the word. I have a Group that contains all the most commonly-used English translations. A search on a limited number of texts makes it easier to find the texts that are excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfraser Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Brett, this has sparked off an interesting discussion with my wife and i wondered why you want to do this? Apparently there is an article in the church Times about little green people. The niv uses alien once in psalm 28. The kjv uses it 8 times, the translators of the esv have used alien 9 times, the jps translators 48 times and out ahead are the nrsv translators with 138 times, but none of these have used it in ps 28. Not my best purchase but dave brunn's book one bible, many translations, are all translations created equal? got me thinking. Not least i should probably have got fee and strauss' book how to choose a translation for all its worth instead (but have now that i see it in accordance as part of the store wide offerhttps://www.accordancebible.com/store/details/?pid=How+To-Translation&cart_action=add&cart_type=cart&cart_pid=How+To-Translation#How_To-Translation). ;o) Edited August 6, 2017 by ukfraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett K. Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Nothing like that. A friend said there were certain words in different translations that he didn't like or distracted him. He said, in his mind, when he sees "alien" it immediately jumps to the little green men. So he wanted to know which translations did not use "alien" at all.I discovered that cannot be accomplished with a single, simple Accordance search like "<NOT> alien" [flex]. So I had to find all that did have alien then manually see which ones were missing out of the list.BTW, the NRSV uses it the most and the NLT doesn't use it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfraser Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Thanks, that sounds very similar to what the newspaper article is about. ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfraser Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Church times article for anyone who is interested. https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2017/21-july/news/uk/niv-gets-in-more-beer-but-dumps-aliens Hope next version also has the turbo tagging. Edited August 6, 2017 by ukfraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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