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#1 mgvh



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Posted Yesterday, 11:37 PM

I am finding it very difficult in Accordance to conduct the searches in the LXX I regularly do.

  1. If I want to search all the instances of something in the LXX (Rahlf's), it appears that I need to conduct separate searches on the regular text and the alternate texts. I want to be able to conduct a single search and find all instances in both.
  2. I regularly conduct searches where I want to find instances in both the LXX and the GNT. I appreciate having the "Greek Bible (LXX + GNT)" in Accordance, but it is of limited value.
    • The LXX text is that of Swete. (It is nice to have access to Swete's even w/out the apparatus. I see that I can upgrade to get the apparatus.) The GNT is Westcott and Hort. So, this will give me LXX/NT results, but I will have to cross check them with Rahlf's and NA28 every time.
    • The Swete LXX has a different chapter:verse system than Rahlf's which is the standard, so that means all results also have to be cross checked in order to get standard LXX versification. (I can do this by adding LXX Rahlf's as a parallel, but it's an extra step and onerous when there are many results.)
    • While Westcott-Hort is close to the NA28, most scholarly research assumes use of NA28.
  3. As with the limitation of searching Rahlf's, the Accordance "Greek Bible" does not include any of the alternate texts (labelled "parallel" texts in Accordance for Rahlf's and NETS), so that means any search of the "Greek Bible" (using Swete) must be accompanied by an additional search of the parallel texts in Rahlfs.

I'm frustrated because I'm trying to switch over to Accordance, and these are tasks I can accomplish quickly and easily in BibleWorks and Logos. BibleWorks actually has the best solution. They have created a separate text that is composed of Rahlf's LXX plus the alternate texts plus NA28. One search does it all. Logos allows users to create "collections" of texts, so one can bundle together whatever they want. (And so I have a collection made up of Rahlf's LXX plus the alternate texts plus NA28. Logos has issues in graphing results using collections, however.)



  • If there is a way for Accordance users to combine texts, I can't find it. If there is, someone please tell me how. If there isn't, then this is a feature request.
  • If texts can't be combined by users, then it would be good if Accordance created a new combination text consisting of texts we already have in the Greek and Hebrew Explorer: LXX Rahlf's plus the parallel texts plus NA28.

Perhaps I'm missing something. I checked, but I don't see any upgrade path to accomplishing what I want to do.


Thanks for any assistance!

#2 דָנִיאֶל



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Posted Today, 12:54 AM

The best I can suggest is to create your own Group containing the texts you want. I created one with Rahlfs, EPT, F35 and NA28. Then do a Greek Research query.

This can even be used with constructs which I didn't know until I tried it. So I was able to search for αγαπη  and αυτος within 2 words of each other for example.


Is this what you are looking for ?


This search :


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returned :



Eccl. 9:6      καί γε ἀγάπη αὐτῶν καί γε μῖσος αὐτῶν

Wis. 3:9 … καὶ οἱ πιστοὶ ἐν ἀγάπῃ προσμενοῦσιν αὐτῷ·
    ὅτι χάρις καὶ ἔλεος …


Eph. 2:4 … διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀγάπην αὐτοῦ ἣν ἠγάπησεν ἡμᾶς,

Col. 1:13 … βασιλείαν τοῦ υἱοῦ τῆς ἀγάπης αὐτοῦ,

1John 4:12 … ἐν ἡμῖν μένει καὶ ἡ ἀγάπη αὐτοῦ τετελειωμένη ἐστὶν ἐν ἡμῖν.


Eph. 2:4 … διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀγάπην αὐτοῦ ἣν ἠγάπησεν ἡμᾶς,

Col. 1:13 … βασιλείαν τοῦ υἱοῦ τῆς ἀγάπης αὐτοῦ,

1John 4:12 … ἐν ἡμῖν μένει καὶ ἡ ἀγάπη αὐτοῦ τετελειωμένη ἐστὶν ἐν ἡμῖν.


Eph. 2:4 … διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀγάπην αὐτοῦ ἣν ἠγάπησεν ἡμᾶς,

Col. 1:13 … βασιλείαν τοῦ υἱοῦ τῆς ἀγάπης αὐτοῦ,

1John 4:12 … ἐν ἡμῖν μένει καὶ ἡ ἀγάπη αὐτοῦ ἐν ἡμῖν τετελειωμένη …

as an example.




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Posted Today, 01:36 AM

Hi mgvh


try adding and independent pane and using the LINK command.


That will perform the one search on both texts simultaneously.


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Don’t open it in parallel - open it as an independent pane.

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