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#1 sdbertrand

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

I am excited about the soon coming release of the new critical edition of the Greek New Testament produced by a team centered at Tyndale House, Cambridge, and published jointly with Crossway.

 

Announcement: https://www.crossway...-tyndal-hconly/.

 

This would be a wonderful resource to add to Accordance. And at the end of the FAQs at the above site, it indicates that they intend to make this easily available electronically (which I would hope would include licensing to Accordance). 

 


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 09:16 AM

It would be really nice to know what "free for many uses" actually translates into. I couldn't find anything on what license they might offer the electronic text under.

 

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D


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 03:41 PM

This would be excellent!!


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 12:50 PM

I am looking forward to this being available soon. 



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Posted 10 November 2017 - 01:38 PM

Off topic but will this result in yet more (english) translations based on this rather than na27, 28, 29, 30, 31, nn?

I looked at the esv introduction (crossway) and saw this

Textual Basis and Resources
The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (2nd ed., 1983), and on the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by Nestle and Aland. The currently renewed respect among Old Testament scholars for the Masoretic text is reflected in the ESV’s attempt, wherever possible, to translate difficult Hebrew passages as they stand in the Masoretic text rather than resorting to emendations or to finding an alternative reading in the ancient versions. In exceptional, difficult cases, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Syriac Peshitta, the Latin Vulgate, and other sources were consulted to shed possible light on the text, or, if necessary, to support a divergence from the Masoretic text. Similarly, in a few difficult cases in the New Testament, the ESV has followed a Greek text different from the text given preference in the UBS/Nestle-Aland 27th edition. Throughout, the translation team has benefited greatly from the massive textual resources that have become readily available recently, from new insights into biblical laws and culture, and from current advances in Hebrew and Greek lexicography and grammatical understanding

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 02:09 PM

Off topic but will this result in yet more (english) translations based on this rather than na27, 28, 29, 30, 31, nn?

 

You never know. I thought that maybe the SBL Greek NT would result in this, but to my knowledge, it has not so far. The Zondervan Reader's Greek New Testament reflects the current NIV, but it was kind of "retro-created" from the NIV, based on instances where the translators disagreed with the decisions made in the UBS/NA text. 

 

We're starting to see a number of these "new" releases of Greek NT texts, so it will be interesting to see what comes from it in the decades to come.


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Posted 10 November 2017 - 06:27 PM

+1 for Tyndale's GNT in Accordance.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 11:26 AM

From what I understand, we will be getting it, but no release date or official announcement yet. 


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 11:37 AM

This would be really welcome. I quite enjoy reading the EPT. It's different from the NA in minor ways with some frequency and more substantially more rarely. You'll be reading along and then look at a commentary or Acc syntax and realize they are describing different text. And then out comes the NA and CNTTS. Gives a different perspective on the language and the passage. Sometime the EPT seems preferrable, other times the NA. This would give another perspective also.

 

Will it affect translations ? I expect in time, if it's well thought of some translations might be based on it, and others might use it to cross-check things. I agree with Rick it will be interesting.

 

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 12:28 PM

This would be really welcome. I quite enjoy reading the EPT. It's different from the NA in minor ways with some frequency and more substantially more rarely. You'll be reading along and then look at a commentary or Acc syntax and realize they are describing different text. And then out comes the NA and CNTTS. Gives a different perspective on the language and the passage. Sometime the EPT seems preferrable, other times the NA. This would give another perspective also.

 

Making absolutely no personal statement on which mss tradition is the original, I enjoy the GNT-EPT, too. As I've grown older, I've come to appreciate some of the "traditional" readings in a different light. I can't remember where I read it years ago, but I seem to remember Metzger calling the Byzantine mss tradition "the Bible of the Church" meaning that it was the standard reading for church use and liturgies for centuries. 

 

Daniel, do you have the GNT-F35? It's another good text for comparison, a bit more recent than the GNT-EPT.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 12:54 PM

I have the F35 and a bunch of others. I've compared with it on occasion but not so often. Mostly that is because most supporting material is geared towards the NA lineage and I need to cross check stuff that way more often. But on occasion I've certainly found it useful. I think I'd really like to get into some papyri actually.

 

And next year I think may have to be a Philo or Josephus year.

 

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 02:40 PM

This GNT has been released this week and has already been made available in full digitally at esv.org for free.

 

Does this help Accordance get licensing to make this available as a module? Even though I can have it for free there, I would rather pay a reasonable fee and be able to access and search the THGNT through Accordance.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

This GNT has been released this week and has already been made available in full digitally at esv.org for free.
 
Does this help Accordance get licensing to make this available as a module? Even though I can have it for free there, I would rather pay a reasonable fee and be able to access and search the THGNT through Accordance.


No, it makes no difference. We're in discussions to license it, and ours will presumably be morphologically tagged.
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Posted 18 November 2017 - 10:28 PM

Looking forward to this being available.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:58 PM

This GNT has been released this week and has already been made available in full digitally at esv.org for free.

 

Does this help Accordance get licensing to make this available as a module? Even though I can have it for free there, I would rather pay a reasonable fee and be able to access and search the THGNT through Accordance.

 

It was the publisher's intention to release in print and online first. We've been in discussions with them for a while. But, as Rick said, no word on an release date yet.


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