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#1 Enoch

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:33 AM

I am very thankful that Accordance has greatly improved the ability of knowing who wrote what, as when one consults a commentary set which has a general editor who did not write the comments on some particular book, each Bible book having its own author.  It would be so nice if this problem were completely solved so that it showed in the heading of the resource brought up.  I was just looking at Easton's Bible Dictionary, at its article on "Sabbatical Year."  Did Easton write all the articles in his dictionary way back in 19th century?  When I did the "copy as citation" the result gave me no author for that article, unless Easton wrote it.

 

Another issue is the date of everything cited. Am I correct that sometimes the date included in the citation is that of the reprint instead of the real date of publication?  The date when the guy wrote it and then it was put out, is really what is important.



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Posted 02 October 2017 - 04:39 AM

Hi Enoch.

 

With regard to Easton's Bible Dictionary, I believe that yes he did write every article.

He lists some of the resources he used in his research in his first edition of 1893.

 

A scan of Easton 1st edition can be found here: https://archive.org/...atedbible00east

 

NB I don't get any dates when I copy as citation from Easton.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:18 PM

For dictionaries / encyclopedias like this if there are individual authors they are typically mentioned in the end of the article. I do not know a lot about Easton, but would assume Alistair is correct.

 

As far as the citation, SBL and Turabian style does not include the date when citing it in a footnote. The date is included when citing it in bibliography (change this in prefs > bibliography).

 

As for the dates we use in citations, we try to cite the edition that our electronic edition is based upon. For some of the older Public Domain works we have made our best guess, but would not include a reprint date that was clearly printed long after the original work. We also include the print edition in the citation, e.g. "3d; Accordance electronic edition", which would indicate that this is the 3rd edition of the printed resource in Accordance.

 

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 10:13 AM

For dictionaries / encyclopedias like this if there are individual authors they are typically mentioned in the end of the article. I do not know a lot about Easton, but would assume Alistair is correct.

 

As far as the citation, SBL and Turabian style does not include the date when citing it in a footnote. The date is included when citing it in bibliography (change this in prefs > bibliography).

 

As for the dates we use in citations, we try to cite the edition that our electronic edition is based upon. For some of the older Public Domain works we have made our best guess, but would not include a reprint date that was clearly printed long after the original work. We also include the print edition in the citation, e.g. "3d; Accordance electronic edition", which would indicate that this is the 3rd edition of the printed resource in Accordance.

 

I hope this helps.

 

For dictionaries / encyclopedias like this if there are individual authors they are typically mentioned in the end of the article. I do not know a lot about Easton, but would assume Alistair is correct.

 

As far as the citation, SBL and Turabian style does not include the date when citing it in a footnote. The date is included when citing it in bibliography (change this in prefs > bibliography).

 

As for the dates we use in citations, we try to cite the edition that our electronic edition is based upon. For some of the older Public Domain works we have made our best guess, but would not include a reprint date that was clearly printed long after the original work. We also include the print edition in the citation, e.g. "3d; Accordance electronic edition", which would indicate that this is the 3rd edition of the printed resource in Accordance.

 

I hope this helps.

Are you sure about Turabian?  http://lib.trinity.e...Author_Date.pdf



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 10:28 AM

Turabian is generally a poor style guide for biblical studies. The best is SBL, found in the SBL Handbook, which is available as an Accordance resource. It's a modified version of APA.

 

Bible Dictionaries with unsigned articles, like Eaton's, are generally cited as dictionaries; no author is specified in the citation. Bible dictionaries with signed articles are generally cited as articles, the same way we would cite articles from a journal; authors are identified. The difference between a journal article ad a signed Bible dictionary article is that the latter is generally abbreviated and not accompanied by a publication date (They are so well known, none is necessary.) 


Edited by Timothy Jenney, 03 October 2017 - 10:28 AM.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 11:01 AM

Duplicate!


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 11:08 AM

The four pieces of front matter here would be very nice to have added to the module:

 

PREFACE.

 
The Illustrated Dictionary of the Bible is the fruit of many years of loving labour. No pains have been spared to make it in all respects reliable and complete. The author has sought to embody in the work, in as compact a form as possible, the results the most recent research in all departments of Biblical literature—doctrinal, historical, biographical, archaeological, and geographical.
 
Tho learned research and criticism which resulted in the Revised Version of the Scriptures have, probably for the first time, been here utilized  in a systematic way in a Bible Dictionary.
 
The abundant use of illustrations and sketch-maps,  and the introduction of chronological and other tables, will, it is believed, be found to add greatly to the value of the book.
 
The author offers this work to the public in the hope that it may prove to be worthy of a place on the table of all students of the Bible, and particularly of those who are engaged in the religious instruction of the young in Sabbath schools, and he helpful as a convenient and trustworthy book of reference on Biblical subjects. He has taken cognizance of modern controversies bearing on the character and claims of the Word of God and on the doctrines of the gospel, and, while avoiding everything of a sectarian character, has freely stated  the conclusions he has reached, under the deep impression that further study and  research will only the more fully confirm the truth of “those things which are most surely believed among us.”
 
May the Lord, whose Word this book is intended to elucidate, graciously vouchsafe His blessing with it, to His own glory !
 
M. G. E.
 
LIST OF BOOKS CONSULTED.
———-—-•-—-———
The books the author has had occasion to consult in the preparation of this Dictionary have been very numerous. Besides those quoted or referred to in the work itself, the following may be mentioned :—
 
The Palestine Exploration Fund Quarterly Statements.
The Memoirs of the Survey of Western Palestine.
The Memoirs of the Egypt Exploration Fund. .
The Negeb or South Country of Scripture, by Rev. E. Wilton, M.A.
The Desert of the Exodus, by E. H. Palmer, M.A..
Durch Gosen zum Sinai, von Dr. Georg Ebers.
Ægypten und die Bücher Mose’s, von Dr. Georg Ebers.
Zeitschrit des Deutschen Palästina-Vereins.
Die Keilinschriften u. das Alte Testament, 2te A., von Eberhard Schrader.
Zeitschrit für Assyriologie u. Verwandte Gebiete.
Keilinschriften und Geschichtsforschung : Ein Beitrag zur Monumentalen Geographie der Assyrer, von Eberhard Schrader.
Die bibl. Altertümer, von Kinzler.
Die bibl. Natuurgeschichte u. die bibl. Geographie, Herausg. von dem Calwer Verlagsverein.
Bibel-Atlas u. bibl. Geographie, von Dr. R. v. Riess.
Handwörterbuch des bibl. Alterthums. von E. C. H. Riehm; 2te Auflage. von Dr. F. Baethgen.
Realencyclopädie für Protest. Theol. u. Kirche, Von Herzog, PLlitt, u. Hauck. 2te Auflage.
La Trouvaille de Deir-eI-Behari, vingt Photographies, par M. E. Brugsch, Texte par G. Maspero.
Hist. Ancienne de l’Orient, par M. Lenormant.
The Hibbert Lectures. Lectures on the origin and growth of religion as illustrated by the religion of the ancient Babylonians. By A. H. Sayce.
A Manual of Ancient History; by George Rawlinson, M.A.
The Five Great Monarchies of the Ancient Eastern WorId, by George Rawlinson, M.A.
History of Ancient Egypt, by George Rawlinson, M.A.
A History of Art in Chaldea and Assyria, by George Perrot and Charles Clupiez.
The Bible and Modern Discovery, by Harper.
The Holy Land and the Bible, by Geikie.
The Students Edition of the Speaker’s Commentary, by Fuller. M.A., Professor of Ecclesiastical History, King's College, London.
Biblischer Commentar u. d. A. T., von Keil u. Delitzsch.
The By-Paths of Bible Knowledge.
Smith’s Bible Dictionary
Calmet’s Dictionary of the Bible.
Schaff’s Bible Dictionary.
Fausset’s CriticaI aand Expository Bible Cyclopædia.
Edersheim’s Bible History.
M’Clintock and Strongs Cyclopædia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature.
 
———-—-•-•-—-———
ARABIC WORDS USED IN THE MODERN NAMES OF PLACES. ETC.
Ab, father. Abu, father of.
‘Ain: or en, a well; lit. the “eye” of the desert. ‘Ayûn (pl.) wells.
Amîr or ameer, prince.
Ard, earth.
Bahr, sea.
Beit, house.
Beni, sons of. Ibn, son.
Bar or beer, fountain; an artificially sunk and enclosed well, as distinguished from ‘ain.
Birket, pool.
Dan, dwelling.
Deir, convent.
Derb, way.
Kalat, castle or fort.
Kafr, village.
Kasr, palace; pl. kǔsûr.
Khǔrbet, ruins
Kǔrm, vineyard
Malek, king.
Nahr, river.
Nebi, prophet.
Râs. headland ; cape: summit.
Said, lord.
Tell, mound ; hill.
Umm, mother.
Wâdy, rain stream, or the channel through which it flows.
 
ABBREVIATIONS.
A.V. ……… . Authorized Vernon of the Bible. 
R.V. ……… . Revised Version of the Bible.
LXX. ……… Septuagint Version of the Bible. 
Lat. ……… Latin.
Gr.  ……… Greek.
Heb. ……… Hebrew.
Arab. ……… Arabic.
Aram. ……… Aramaic or Chaldee.
N.T. ……… New Testament.
O.T. ……… Old Testament
n.p. ……… proper name.
cf. ……… compare.
i.e. ……… that is.
ibid. ……… the same.
q.v. ……… which see.
l.c. ……… in the passage quoted. 
e.g. ………  for example.
 
-dan
PS: Does anyone know for sure the meaning of 2te is it a short form for second edition much like english 2nd?


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:38 AM

Are you sure about Turabian?  http://lib.trinity.e...Author_Date.pdf

 

Yes.


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:06 PM

 

PS: Does anyone know for sure the meaning of 2te is it a short form for second edition much like english 2nd?

 

I'm pretty sure it means "second" but second what I don't know.

 

OK, "Second edition" is "zweite Ausgabe", and zwei is 2, so zweite is 2te. Simple


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 01:28 PM

I'm pretty sure it means "second" but second what I don't know.

 

OK, "Second edition" is "zweite Ausgabe", and zwei is 2, so zweite is 2te. Simple

Gut erklärt Alistair.

 

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 03:38 PM

 I used an online translation app, so no thanks are needed. You're welcome.



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:13 PM

I'm pretty sure it means "second" but second what I don't know.

 

OK, "Second edition" is "zweite Ausgabe", and zwei is 2, so zweite is 2te. Simple

 

Are you sure that when Bush was in the Air Force National Guard that 2te could have been produced on a Selectric?


Yes.

I think you mean that for standard encyclopedias a date may not be required by Turabian (not for all works in general)?



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:01 PM

Are you sure that when Bush was in the Air Force National Guard that 2te could have been produced on a Selectric?

 

I think that is meant to be a joke but I'm sorry I don't get any of the cultural references. :(



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Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:04 PM

I think that is meant to be a joke but I'm sorry I don't get any of the cultural references. :(

There was this big brouhaha over a document and the font it used with superscript th or not when Bush II was running for president.  If you are interested you would google on it using words like CBS, Dan Rather, Selectric, Times New Roman, and Lucy Ramirez.



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:31 AM

We've just released an update to Easton that adds the front matter and a transliteration field. 


Edited by Mark Allison, 16 May 2018 - 10:42 AM.

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