Copy as URL Location

[dfish@occ.edu]

Am I going crazy? I thought that I knew how to copy a location in an Accordance Text, to put a link in an external document, so that a student could open a resource to a specific location.

 

For example, in Dr. J's Bible Study Methods, the link accord://read/Dr._J’s_BSM#296 should open up to the section titled The IBS Method.

 

Now, I made that link several months ago.

 

If I go to that location right now, however, and highlight the text IBS Method, and the use the command Copy As URL Location, I get a complete website location, instead of the accord:// format: https://accordance.bible/link/read/Dr._J’s_BSM#296

 

Now, if I click on that link, it goes to a webpage (see image attached). It includes a button saying "View in Accordance." Nothing happens when I click on that, however.

 

How did I create the link in accord:// format instead of https:// format?

 

Actually, I am also wanting to to the same for the new resource Getting Started with Accordance (https://accordance.bible/link/read/Getting_Started#1)

 

Would the accord:// link be accord://read/Getting_Started#1

 

 

I appreciate help on this. I want to have the tutorial documents with links ready by Monday morning.

Edited December 2, 2017 by dfish@occ.edu

[Fabian]

I would love to have both versions of the URLs. Copy as URI internal and as URL external over the internet for posting on the Forums which was able before.

 

At the moment you have to change the URLs from https://accordance.bible/link/read/Getting_Started#1to accord://read/Getting_Started#1 to stay internal. E.g. to go from Word instantly to Accordance, without the path over the internet. The old way is still possible see http://accordancefiles2.com/helpfiles/OSX12/Default.htm#topics/05_dd/using_links_common_tasks.htm#kanchor512

 

So the https://accordance.bible/link is to change to accord:// then it works. The rest of the link is the same.

 

Greetings

 

Fabian

Edited December 2, 2017 by Fabian

[Λύχνις Δαν]

That looks a bit strange. But I grabbed the URL provided and pasted it into a browser and in fact it hits a webpage as dfish posted. And that provides a correct accord:// link which you could click on. And that worked when I clicked on it for a ref in Robertson's grammar. But this seems very convoluted as a way to get the right link. Unless the point is that the Acc software handles this redirect internally, either contacting the website and then retrieving the link and then hitting it, or by simply knowing what to do with it, hopefully the latter.  Now if I paste it into a User Tool and then click on it it works fine despite what it says.

 

So this seems ok functionally but I wouldn't mind knowing why it's like this now. Certainly it's a change I hadn't noticed.

 

But that makes me wonder how it works if it's not pasted into Acc. In a Wordprocessor I don't know. Well pasting into LO answered that - it went to the website of course. That seems like a problem if that isn't what you want. A new option required ?

 

BTW, if I might be a pedant for a moment, the difference between a URI and a URL isn't whether its 'internal' or not. A URI is an ID. A URL is a locator and thus adds a method by which to access the resource. Either https:// or accord:// would qualify as access methods so they are both URLs.

 

Thx

D

Edited December 2, 2017 by דָנִיאֶל

[dfish@occ.edu]

Thanks, Fabian.

 

I figured it out. When the https:// link was launched, it would go to the Accordance page, but the internal link would NOT put an underscore character between words.

 

So when I clicked on the button "View in Accordance" nothing happened.

 

The link that works is accord://read/Getting_Started?#1, but the internal link generated on the https:// page was accord://read/Getting Started?#1, which would go no where.

 

Thanks for the link with ALL KINDS OF HELP with Accordance XII. I will certainly recommend that my students spend some time there.

 

Blessings!

[Joel Brown]

The new https:// links are Universal Links.  Unlike the accord:// links, these are supported on every program (many programs didn't like accord://) and work if sending to a user that doesn't have Accordance.  In theory it should always redirect on to Accordance, and the link examples you listed in the first post work just fine for me.  If clicked on within the program (e.g. from a User Note, Tool, Stack, Paper, or otherwise) they also stay internal.

 

The one limitation is that it is now a two step process if being clicked on from an external program.  Apple (and Windows) haven't provided support for Universal Links directly going to the app on the desktop.  This actually works perfectly on iOS, but they never did it for desktop.  For now, if using these new links outside of the program, you'll need to either deal with the two step process, or replace the [https://accordance.bible/link/]portion with [accord://].

[Paul Meiklejohn]

Joel, I prefer the new https:// as I use Evernote for notetaking taking and I constantly had to highlight the complete link, (very fiddly)  and then use apple services to redirect my accord://.  

 

So for me, the new universal link is much smoother.  However, (and I ask a novice) is it not possible to get Accordance web page to automatically direct the link straight to the passage in question?  i.e.  If click the link, it goes to the new automated link but then automatically directs me straight to 'View in Accordance'.  Thus essentially making it one step process again?

 

Paul.

Edited December 3, 2017 by Paul Meiklejohn

[Λύχνις Δαν]

Isn't the downside that a universal link means that you must be connected to the internet to use them outside Accordance ?

I wonder if it would be useful to have an option to Copy As URL and Copy As Universal Link - or a preference to control what kind of link it produced.

 

I don't know if Windows will ever pick it up - Universal Links look like an Apple specific thing (and Apple mobile at that) - are they ? Does the windows App use Universal Links also ? I'll have to try it out.

Tried - Windows does it too.

 

Thx

D

Edited December 3, 2017 by דָנִיאֶל

[Fabian]

Yes I see the advantage from the Universal Link. Now if we use the Universal Link in a Word document and then we save it as Html filtered and import it in Accordance as User Tool the Link will always work.

 

With the old Link it worked faster from Word but after the import as User Tool in Accordance it doesn't work anymore. I remember some code snippets in 11.1.6 where the link was broken then.

 

"The one limitation is that it is now a two step process if being clicked on from an external program.  Apple (and Windows) haven't provided support for Universal Links directly going to the app on the desktop." (Joels post above).

So we need a developer who request this by Apple and Microsoft!

 

Or is it possible way to give in the Privatsphere  the permission for the website? 

 

Greetings

 

Fabian

[OSchrock]

I just posted the Apple Services that I created in order to skip the web browser and open straight in Accordance from other apps. 

 

That topic is here: https://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/23174-automator-service-to-open-universal-links-without-web-browser/?p=113306

[Brian W. Davidson]

OSchrock, that link seems to be broken. Is there some other way to install the services you created?

[OSchrock]

OSchrock, that link seems to be broken. Is there some other way to install the services you created?

 

 

 

Sorry about that. Here is the corrected link to the Forum discussion: 

 

 

https://www.accordancebible.com/forums/topic/23174-automator-service-to-open-universal-links-without-web-browser