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#1 Helen Brown

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 10:14 PM

version 0.56. I have a search in HMT-W4, looks fine. I add a parallel pane, the Hebrew pane goes blank, the English displays all text until I repeat the search (the criteria are still there). Same thing happens if I change the pane orientation: blank Hebrew, all text in English even though they are linked.


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 04:30 PM

This one I can't duplicate.

 

Anyone else getting this?

 

If so, please describe how to reproduce it.



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 10:00 PM

I can repro. some of this on my Note III (Android 5.0) on 0.56

 

Open HMT-W4

Open search

Set to words

type in: bra

Hit search

Open parallel - ESVS in my case

Open search again

Backspace over the a in bra and then retype it so the search string is still bra

Hit search

ESVS pane goes blank

 

In my case HMT-W4 pane never goes blank.

 

The same can be done with a Greek search with a Greek text in the first pane

 

Ok I can repro the first bit.

 

The initial search must be for a word that does not exist, at least in my case.

So the steps are :

 

Open HMT-W4

Open search

Set to words

type in: gbg

Hit search - it will beep highlighting nothing because there are no hits

Open parallel - ESVS in my case - then the HMT-W4 will go blank

 

 

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 06:23 PM

Should be fixed next release.


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 10:17 PM

My issues are fixed in 0.58, thanks.

 

A more minor issue that may be unavoidable but differs from the other Accordance apps:

Navigate in the HMT-W4 to the last verse in 2 Chronicles.

A Parallel English Bible shows Ezra following 2 Chronicles, Septuagint shows 1 Esdras.

 

In our other apps only the verses of the search text are displayed in parallel panes, and they are in the order of the search text.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 12:22 AM

My first case above is fixed.

 

The second blanks the initial HMT pane immediately rather than waiting until you open the second pane. Is that expected for a search returning no hits ? When the HMT is opened normally and you enter a search for something not existing there are two quite beeps and a small grey oval briefly appears at the bottom of the screen. If I do such a search in the ESVS I get a grey backgrounded line of text saying that the "The selected word cannot be found in the ESVS". Is that what should be happening in the HMT ? Is that what the grey oval is - a  grey background without a message in it ?

 

After that if I open another pane in parallel with the ESVS then the first pane where the search was done goes blank. This appears to happen whenever you have a search for something that cannot be found in the search box and somehow it get rerun - which seems to happen going from 1-2 panes or vice versa.

 

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 12:20 PM

My first case above is fixed.

 

The second blanks the initial HMT pane immediately rather than waiting until you open the second pane. Is that expected for a search returning no hits ? When the HMT is opened normally and you enter a search for something not existing there are two quite beeps and a small grey oval briefly appears at the bottom of the screen. If I do such a search in the ESVS I get a grey backgrounded line of text saying that the "The selected word cannot be found in the ESVS". Is that what should be happening in the HMT ? Is that what the grey oval is - a  grey background without a message in it ?

 

After that if I open another pane in parallel with the ESVS then the first pane where the search was done goes blank. This appears to happen whenever you have a search for something that cannot be found in the search box and somehow it get rerun - which seems to happen going from 1-2 panes or vice versa.

 

Thx

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So if I follow, "the second" is this:

Open HMT-W4

Open search

Set to words

type in: gbg

Hit search - it will beep highlighting nothing because there are no hits

Open parallel - ESVS in my case - then the HMT-W4 will go blank

 

And that does misbehave for me. I'll look into it.

 

The grey oval is an Android 'toast' notification, and it should say something, instead of nothing. The ESVS is, I think, behaving correctly and the text stretches that host oval out based on its size.

 

Sorry, I should've tested this case, I assumed the other fix would take care of it, but it is something else altogether different. Thanks for the follow-up.



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Posted 20 December 2017 - 01:54 PM

OK, so the oval is now a tad more informative...

 

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and the offending characters (all of them, in this case) are highlighted.

 

That's half the problem. The other problem is what happens when you transition between pane views. In that case, the prior activity is destroyed and a new one is created. The app tries to reload everything as close to 'normal' between them. In this scenario, in the first single pane view, the invalid search is invalid, and the pane's prior view is not updated (still at Gen 1:1). Then, when you switch to the dual pane view, it tries to run the invalid search, and since there is nothing there to display, it also does not update the pane's prior view. But since that pane was just created ex nihilo (so to speak), the pane is blank.

 

Neither outcome is terribly terrible, but because of the activity switches, the behavior appears inconsistent, only because they are inconsistent. :) So we'll look at this.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 04:52 PM

OK, new 0.59 coming should fix this.

 

Feel free to exercise thoroughly, unintended consequences are not uncommon.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 04:55 PM

Cool - many thanx for this. I'll have a play with it.

 

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 12:20 PM

On this, I realized that changes to other activities besides alternate pane views like EI, Settings, etc. with an invalid search in place before the switch could result in a blank pane upon return. I just fixed that.

 

It doesn't probably merit another release before I've accumulated more changes to make, but just to let you know, if you run into that, it's been fixed.

 

Feel free to exercise this area, we did have to make tweaks a bit deeper than one wishes to have to make this late in a beta.






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